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Posted on 04/20/2006 2:10:46 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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Er...expert.
Oops.
Be sure to proofread...heh.
Proper formatting is one thing. And it should look neat and up to date. I'm not suggesting just typing it out in courier font.
But technical-engineering types Steve will be applying to will be looking for the detail more than the format.
JMHO
Unfortunately, most places you have to get by HR first, before the tech people see your resume. So...there's that.
At my job in DC we got a resume for an intern position.
Girl said she had experience "profreading."
You know, one time I actually uploaded Steve's resume into a site and they automatically took all the information out of it, but it into a form and asked me to verify that the information in the form was accurate! Then they went on to have me add even more stuff to the form!
It totally astounded me!
put it into a form
Heh heh!
"Don't look for a job in Fort Collins."
Hehehe
It's catching! ;-)
True enough.
When I'm making resumes for people with nothing to put on them, then fluff is all we've got to put in them. :~D
But even on resumes that are really full, you don't want it to look like it's just a block of text with a lot of words on it, people still have to be enticed to read it. If there's a lot of description, two pages, with nice bold headings and enough white space to make it look readable is better than crammed on one really wordy page.
*sigh*
Yeah, that's about it. I'm still rather amazed at just how hard that was. I kept a spreadsheet because I started to lose track of where I'd applied, and it was approaching two hundred by the time I gave up. And most of these were jobs I had to fill forms out for and do cover letters for and all that. Ungh.
Which, in my view is still different than "pretty." ;-)
FWIW, my current resume is three pages.
'course that covers 26 years.
~sob~
The days of the one-page resume are over. There's no problem-- in fact, most technical resumes like he's going to have will spill over to two or quite a few more pages. People will expect it. No worries. It's going to get longer as time goes on, because he'll want to include publications, if any, and even little abstracts on notable projects.
I agree with other comments about loading it with search terms... buzzwords.
You'll probably want a couple versions. One pretty one for printing, and another *very* generically-formatted one for cutting and pasting into web sites and sending in e-mail. This one needs to look OK in *any* font, width, size and without any special characters (like bullets). Just plain text and paragraphs and nothing else.
You never know in those situations what somebody will be reading it with. They might just be ripping text and reading it with a resume-searching tool, with all the formatting gone. They might read it in e-mail and have their mail program set to plain-text only. A highly formatted version would come out looking goofy and hard to read.
My .02
Morning evellybody...
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I'm more amazed at how quickly you ended up with too many jobs here. What a relief for me that was, I was merely ~hoping~ it would go that well if you came out here. You never know till you start sending resumes into the black hole....
Mine is two, but with a third page for references. But it's hard to detail technical experience without getting a little wordy.
I dunno what I'll do if I have to look again. I guess at some point you start dropping the most distant experience...but for me, that's the Air Force, and I really hate to leave that out.
You know...one difference here is that both of the jobs I actually got were with places small enough that a) stuff didn't get parsed by HR (who'd probably dump my resume for lack of college credits vs experience) and b) I didn't have to wait for other decision makers.
I think part of the problem in FC was just that everything is very big and corporate. Makes it hard to get through to actual IT humans. It isn't as if I really had many interviews.
If I run away from home, can I come out there and have one of those?
Then they'll wonder what you were up to between school and the first listed job.
IMHO you should ~never~ drop your military experience from your resume.
Mine starts with my first real job out of college. I limit the description to one sentence. But it's there.
Prolly not the same ones.... Rosie gave 'em away.
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