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This has gone on far too long. It's clear you are never going to say the words, "Your request for proof is fair, and I don't have any" or "I'm sorry I attacked people simply for asking". That's all anyone wanted... You made it worse, and not better, by implying someone's FRMail tip about the race of some of those arguing with you was both interesting and relevant enough to post about.

Ruthy didn't ~get~ anyone to do anything.

While some of us came to the defense of a friend because she deserved it. Many of those asking you the same questions don't know Ruthy or the Hobbit Hole from Adam. The question was a simple one, and a fair one.

Without a source that these two men are in fact illegal Mexicans, it is poor form, poor activism, and grossly irresponsible to assert that they are. You have done so in both your original headline, and subsequent posts. Proof of assertions is a good thing. It keeps everyone honest, and prevents any of us the embarrassment of letting someone like you bait us into calling for these guys' heads on a platter IF they turn out to be legal and/or not even at fault in this accident.

If that were to happen, no one who called for caution will look like a fool. Innocent until proven guilty is one of our best ideas yet in this country.

Your behavior on this thread, in addition to the assumption of guilt on anyone who is [Mexican] has proven we were correct to not be too eager to jump on your bandwagon. It was going in a direction most FReepers would be smart to not want to go. YOU are the one who would make FR look bad if you would have continued unquestioned.

The lesson? Be VERY careful about your facts and your proof if you intend to make allegations. And if you're going to make race an issue, make sure it's relevant.