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Case Aganst Duke Student Unraveling Fast
ABC GMA | Chris Cummo

Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

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To: RJS1950

Correct. Verified by cab driver and cost of cab ride, which is printed out as permanent record on taxi meter.


202 posted on 04/19/2006 6:48:56 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
So if your theory is correct, she's still lying.

I am not developing a theory. I am looking at the theory set forth by the defense which is based on a timeline that claims it is impossible for the event to happen based on time stamped pictures. It doesn't matter if she is lying if you are trying to develop an air tight alibi. She can claim she was mistaken and revise her accusation.

203 posted on 04/19/2006 6:50:48 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Lurker

To save his political career?
We now have a similar problem with the RINOS in the GOP.
They would stop at nothing to get reelected and, we foolish Americans put them back for another term.

The critiques of the RINOS go hand and hand with this prosecutors moment of fame.

Soon Al Sharpton and, Jessy will join the frey, they just can't pass an event as large as this.

Watched Al with O'Rilly last night, didn't take long to see the predigests come boiling out from his mouth.


204 posted on 04/19/2006 6:51:16 AM PDT by buck61
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To: buck61

Just a point of interest---O'Reilly is a Chaminade grad--as is Collin Finnerty---Great school.


206 posted on 04/19/2006 6:54:41 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: MindBender26

If they took samples from this woman for DNA check .... does that mean that there was DNA on her that was not hers and by the tests was not that of team? If so ... that would mean it was obviously someone else she had sex with!


207 posted on 04/19/2006 6:55:25 AM PDT by cmet
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To: MindBender26

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCenter/story?id=1858806&page=1



ABC NEWS EXCLUSIVE: Key Evidence Supports Alibi in Potential Rape Defense for One Indicted Duke Player

Reade Seligmann Was At Party, But Has An Alibi and Taxi Driver Witness


By CHRIS CUOMO, ERIC AVRAM, and LARA SETRAKIAN

EXCERPT


Around midnight the night of March 13, Seligmann was already at the party when two women hired from a local escort agency arrived to dance for the boys — $400 each for a two-hour performance. A series of time-stamped photographs viewed by ABC News show the girls dancing at midnight and at 12:02 a.m.

By 12:24 a.m., a receipt reviewed by ABC indicates that Seligmann's ATM card was used at a nearby Wachovia bank. In a written statement to the defense also reviewed by ABC, a cabdriver confirms picking up Seligmann and a friend a block and a half from the party, and driving them to the bank.

What did Seligmann do after leaving the bank? The taxi driver remembers taking him to a drive-thru fast-food restaurant and then dropping him off at his dorm. Duke University records show that Seligmann's card was used to gain entry at 12:46 a.m.

In addition to bolstering Seligmann's alibi, the taxi driver's written testimony provided a rare glimpse of color in an otherwise darkened night.

"I remember those two guys starting enjoying their food inside my car, but I'm glad I end up with a nice tip and fare $25," the taxi driver said in his testimony.

ABC News traced the steps of Seligmann's story, timing how long it took to get from place to place. In repeated trials, the drive between the Wachovia branch and the corner where the cab picked him up took approximately five minutes. This suggests that Seligmann must have left the house by around 12:19 a.m.

So, Seligmann's alibi suggests, he and the alleged victim were in the house together for less than 20 minutes. According to defense sources, based on the alleged victim's affidavit, all of the following would have transpired within that time period: She and her dance partner performed for several minutes, left after feeling threatened by the boys' growing "excited and aggressive," returned after being persuaded by team members to dance some more, and then she was forced into a bathroom, beaten and raped.

Within those same minutes, phone bill records reviewed by ABC show that the defendant's cell phone made at least two outgoing calls.


208 posted on 04/19/2006 6:55:33 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: KevinB
Why would he go to a bank machine in the early morning hours if he was just going back to his dorm? I suppose it's possible that he needed cash for the cabbie to take him back to his dorm, but it says that he walked back to his dorm.

Apparently you've never jumped into a cab and then found out you didnt have enough cash to pay the driver. You go to the ATM and pay the guy who is likely not to be too friendly by that point. You decide to walk the remaining way back to your dorm. If you had to pay the driver anyway and were low on cash why wouldnt you kill two birds with one stone and stop at the ATM rather than have to make a special trip the next day to get cash.

209 posted on 04/19/2006 6:55:40 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: KevinB
Why would he go to a bank machine in the early morning hours if he was just going back to his dorm?

Maybe he needed money for a hot date with Nancy Grace.

210 posted on 04/19/2006 6:56:23 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: pikachu

Jackson is human garbage. Sad thing is in today's insane world people will hang these kids just not to upset blacks.


211 posted on 04/19/2006 6:57:42 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: AntiGuv
The stripper was reportedly "100% sure" about this one..

When did she get passing out drunk, before or after the alleged assault. If before, how the heck could she be 100% sure of anything, she certainly wasnt 100% sure of her car since she ended up in someone elses.

212 posted on 04/19/2006 6:59:22 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: pikachu
I don't think Operation PUSH helps race relations by paying tuition for a black stripper who falsely accuses white college students of rape and kidnapping.

Is anyone surprised one of the accused WAS NOT EVEN INTERVIEWED BY THE POLICE? There was a crime committed here, but it was a crime committed by the stripper falsely accusing the white kid, and by the DA continuing to prosecute this case.
213 posted on 04/19/2006 7:01:49 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: KevinB

Actually, the cab driver gave his testimony and stated that they stopped at an ATM, then went to a fast food restuarant and then he dropped them (defendant and a friend) at a dorm. Not sure where the walking to the dorm came from.


214 posted on 04/19/2006 7:02:53 AM PDT by elc
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To: maggief

Thanks, this clears up a lot of questions created by the Herald reporting. It also indicates the lawyers are not using the local papers to get the story out. Interesting.

As long as the accuser sticks with her current time line story, this pretty much makes it pretty impossible for this kid to have done anything.


215 posted on 04/19/2006 7:06:31 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: KevinB
I used to live in Edens. It's on Duke's west campus and is almost as far away from the subject house as you can get. Eden's about a 10 min walk from the Chapel and the "main west" quad. There are ATMs on campus including one in the student Union "The Bryan Center" at the main west campus. Since I was there they have put in additional dorms between Edens and main west. There is a small snack bar place there and it could also have ATMs. It's very possible he had the taxi take him to the on-campus ATM to get cash, paid the cab driver and then made the walk to his dorm.
216 posted on 04/19/2006 7:07:39 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: jackieaxe
Is anyone surprised one of the accused WAS NOT EVEN INTERVIEWED BY THE POLICE?

It almost seems the prosecutor didn't want any evidence to interfere with the indictment.

217 posted on 04/19/2006 7:09:04 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: MindBender26
She is also unmarried with 2 kids. (A model upstanding citizen.)

I wonder what the dancer's tax return looks like. Was the proceeds from that evening declared? Is she on Welfare?
218 posted on 04/19/2006 7:11:36 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: MindBender26

and where do these boys go to retrieve their reputations?


219 posted on 04/19/2006 7:12:01 AM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (It's not immigration, it's an invasion!)
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To: proudmilitarymrs

They should have considered that prior to hiring a stripper.


220 posted on 04/19/2006 7:12:34 AM PDT by mlc9852
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