Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:
Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.
Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.
12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.
Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.
Something still could have occured between 11 and 12. Do we know the girls arrived at midnight and that they were not with the accused before then somewhere else?
They are not saying they contacted all taxicab companies serving Durham.
They are saying that the 12 contacted by the paper could not confirm.
If he's got the receipt, and his lawyer double-checked the alibi, I'll bet it's airtight.
Funny how the Herald-Tribune has the resources to be spending all night tracking down cab companies, but all they manage to find out about the alleged victim is that she's a mother of two putting herself through college.
The cab driver did not report the pickup, probably, and kept the money without reporting it. Ergo, no recoprd of a pickup at that location. No interview possible because he only speaks Arabi.
I don't personally have any reason to impugn the Herald-Sun, but fwiw I never thought much of it and hardly ever read it, though back then (before internet) I read at least a couple papers a day. The Raleigh News & Observer was my paper of choice.
This will make an excellent episode of Law and Order ("ripped from the headlines"). Of course, in that version, the guys will be guilty as sin.
Bingo.
You're right, thats what I was thinking when I typed change of location.
You think there is a stink now in the press and Durham just wait until the defense asks for a change of venue.
Hang on, it ain't going to get any better anytime soon.
I agree with you about the quality of a camera phone photos. Also, my camera phone doesn't put a time stamp directly on the pictures I take. Maybe my phone bill would show something in terms of time, I don't know. I've never paid attention.
I've been both. Which were you?
};^)
You are correct. When I first read that I read an implied "all taxicab companies serving" when they actually qualified it as contacted. It really is unclear whether to read it expansively or narrowly.
Anyone able to calculate the forthecoming tuition increase at Duke due to the mega millions these lax players and coach will get after the lawsuit?
Racism rears it's costly, ugly head again.
And the girls will be lesbian partners just trying to raise a family in a world full of bigots.
Crystal Gail Mangum
you think it's as likely he was getting money out to go back to the house to pay the stripper as it was he was getting it out to do a thousand rtandom things the following day even though we know he was in his dorm room 15 minutes later??? Think about that and get back to me.
Sorry, I'm so tweaked by this whole thing. As a woman and human being I think rape is a heinous crime. As a mother of 3 boys who are athletes and white, I hate the way the media is portraying these boys. My brother went to a catholic school on Long Island and played lacrosse for UMASS, and we were not privilaged. In fact my brother is now a detective who works sex crimes. This whole thing just stinks to high heaven.
Yeah, but the strippers showed up late, he knew they were going to be late?
Might I add though that if in fact he is captured by surveillance camera withdrawing money from an ATM anytime during the period when the alleged rape was taking place then how he got there and why he withdrew cash is totally and utterly irrelevant to merit of the charges.
I don't know where they were prior to midnight, but had they been with the accused and raped, why would they still show up for the dance? We do know the girls arrived at midnight from the following timeline (provided by photos):
12:00:12 to 12:02:16 - the girls were partially naked, dancing in the living room surrounded on the 3 sides by dozens of men sitting on couches and chairs. the accuser was missing a shoe already. One guy in the last picture of this 2 minute set was giving the thumbs down.
Midnight: The dancer is sprawled on her stomach on the floor, as a second dancer stands over her. Students are watching the show but not grabbing or attempting to touch the women. Bruises are clearly visible on the legs and thighs of the alleged victim.
12:01:16: The second dancer is lying on her back on the floor with the alleged rape victim kneeling over her.
12:03ish - the women stop dancing possibly because of the alleged broomstick comment.
12:03:57 - women leaving, and going towards the back of the house. the guys say that's when the girls locked themselves in the bathroom. the accuser was supposedly in there fixing her nails, and the other dancer was getting dressed preparing to leave. the guys were on the outside the door telling them to leave.
12:03:57: The dancers are leaving the room after performing for four minutes. The photo clearly shows that the alleged victim left one of her shoes behind as she departed.
27 minutes go by while both girls are in the bathroom
12:10:39: One of the Duke students apparently is passed out on the floor, his head leaning against a sofa, a crushed beer can at his side.
12:30:12 to 12:30:47 - accuser is standing on the steps wearing a red and black lace top bodysuit and one white high heel shoe. She's smiling and holding a cell phone.
12:30:12: The alleged victim is on the back porch. She has a shoe only on her left foot as she appears to smile and apparently tries to get back inside.
12:31:26: The alleged victim appears to be stumbling down the back steps of the house.
12:37:58 - 12:38:18 - accuser lying on stairs, cuts, and abrasions visible. happened when she fell. fresh nail polish was on the handrail. it wasn't on the other handrail pick before she went out there. all of her clothing is intact
12:37:58: A series of photos beginning at this time shows the woman lying on her left side on the back porch, seemingly passed out or asleep. Pink splotches are on a wrought-iron railing beside her.
12:41: The alleged victim is being helped into the car.
12:41:32 - leg of accuser hanging out of door. this man carried her out to Kims car
LOL!
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