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Case Aganst Duke Student Unraveling Fast
ABC GMA | Chris Cummo

Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:

Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.

Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.

12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.

Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; greedygrifter; lyingfordollars
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

It was harder not speaking. And I didn't want anyone to think that all rape survivors automatically assume the man is guilty.

For what it's worth, outside of my family, the people who stood with me both times were law enforcement, hospital chaplains, doctors, and the assistant DAs. Also corrections officials who kept my parents aware of the perps whereabouts.

I may take flak for posting this in an open forum but those people were all white males and I felt safer with them than I did in my own neighborhood. Too often, blacks are told not to say such things in public.


1,261 posted on 04/19/2006 5:08:42 PM PDT by Kitten1 (12/23/1898; 12/25/1901; 3/6/36; 6/25/39; 9/11/55; -- Your sacrifice is not forgotten.)
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To: OakOak

Any idea what these tests cost?


1,262 posted on 04/19/2006 5:09:05 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Howlin
There is a brand new law in NC this year; each witness is to be given eight photos, shown one at a time (not in a group), and they ALL have to have the same facial characteristics. And it goes without saying that it just can't be lacrosse players.

Ya' know Nifong may have sensed two wheels coming off the wagon here, at 'line up' time. The other two wheels would have come off, if princess ID'd someone who was not even a Duke player. How to win an election, if you can't go forward with an indictment?

By in effect insuring 100%, that Mangum would include a Duke player identity, he could set up an 'out' to claim he HAD to though with indictments. Not my incompetance, the woman pick them out of a linup....

1,263 posted on 04/19/2006 5:09:11 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: investigateworld

I was told the first round of DNA testing with the State Bureau of Investigation was over $100,000.

The Private Lab (if testing all 46) will be significantly more.
.


1,264 posted on 04/19/2006 5:10:33 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Howlin

"Two bags?"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1617550/posts?page=1013#1013

It's in the first photo - a gray bag and a black purse


1,265 posted on 04/19/2006 5:10:49 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

So she left with her purse and her makeup bag?


1,266 posted on 04/19/2006 5:11:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: All

Boorishness and Swaggering are Felonies now - huh?

Nancy Grace's show is just terrible.

Let's make examples out of these guys.


1,267 posted on 04/19/2006 5:12:09 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Swanks

Good point.
He had to deliver a lacrosse player!

Joe Schmuck who got popped DUI just wouldn't do.


1,268 posted on 04/19/2006 5:13:12 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: All

Notice how NONE of Psychologists EVER are asking to analyze LONG time strippers and the mind set of manipulating men (and the history of robbing them).


1,269 posted on 04/19/2006 5:13:24 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Enterprise

Add: 12:25 -- Seligman calls girlfriend from cell phone.


1,270 posted on 04/19/2006 5:15:35 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Howlin

And apparently left with her cell phone, too.

The guy who helped her in the car must have given her one of the two purses, but probably didn't notice the other bag and the cellphone also lying on the ground.

Later, they must have been picked up from the yard by one of the housemates and put in the bathroom where the police search found them.

And the screeching lynch mob on the cable shows are asserting that the fact that the purse and the cell phone were found in the bathroom supports her account that she was raped there.


1,271 posted on 04/19/2006 5:16:05 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

BTW, did you notice the lack of breasts?


1,272 posted on 04/19/2006 5:17:01 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Howlin

The photo of her lying on the porch/landing also shows a beige object in the yard which the defense thinks is either her purse/bag. Maybe someone saw it there later and brought it in the house ...?


1,273 posted on 04/19/2006 5:17:44 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Kitten1
>>Too often, blacks are told not to say such things in public.<<


My agency had several cases where we ran into a brick wall involving homicides in the black community.
Street word was "He had it coming,
He did wrong by so and so's little girl"
1,274 posted on 04/19/2006 5:18:04 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

How do we know they were found in the BATHROOM?

Remember, the media read in the DA's misleading statements. He said consistent with her story. Remember 160.00 bucks in cash.. was consistent with $400.00 and the Media all reported
that they found $400.00 on the bathroom floor.

I think the Media filled in the blanks automatically, when he said CONSISTENT WITH HER STORY.

I'm not sure they were in the bathroom.


1,275 posted on 04/19/2006 5:19:39 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Howlin
This was explained in depth on WRAL tonight.

There is a brand new law in NC this year; each witness is to be given eight photos, shown one at a time (not in a group), and they ALL have to have the same facial characteristics. And it goes without saying that it just can't be lacrosse players.

The photos they showed all looked basically alike, i.e., black, same kind of haird, mustaches if the accused has one, like that.

According to WRAL, the departments have just finished training the new procedures.

I wondered about the specifics of the lineup. If the police/DA simply had the complainant select people out of the team photographs, that is clearly unconstitutionally suggestive -- especially since the "lineup" was done some time after the alleged offense.

In my almost sixteen years as a prosecutor, I have never heard of anything quite so outrageous with regard to a photographic lineup. Nifong is a complete disgrace.

1,276 posted on 04/19/2006 5:20:11 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: Locomotive Breath
When he tried out in high school I guess he didn't make the team.

I think he was already playing for a certain team.

1,277 posted on 04/19/2006 5:20:29 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Howlin; All

Now they're bringing up the "skinning strippers" email. Forget Abu Ghraib/Guantanemo, watching Nancy Grace and her clone tonight is torture.


1,278 posted on 04/19/2006 5:21:28 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Enterprise
Somewhere in the victim's statement would have to be something like - "While I was being assaulted, one of the men kept using his cell phone."

Obviously the lacrosse players were engaging in phone sex! Clinton would have to hand it to these guys!

1,279 posted on 04/19/2006 5:23:52 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: GAgal

Nancy Grace and her sub are either incredibly ill-informed or deliberately spreading misinformation to the public. the latter is more likely.


1,280 posted on 04/19/2006 5:24:16 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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