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Case Aganst Duke Student Unraveling Fast
ABC GMA | Chris Cummo

Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:

Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.

Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.

12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.

Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; greedygrifter; lyingfordollars
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To: Peach

Yesterday morning the morning crew went live to Rita in front of the jail for a report. She mentioned that the accuser had a history of alcohol problems, according to her family, and then said Kim also had some previous legal issues. I'm sure the defense team has a dossier on both women and taped their "extensive interview" with Kim.

I hope there's video of Kim slapping a "client" at the party as one of the pictures is said to show, and audio of her parting comments about "their manhood".


1,161 posted on 04/19/2006 4:04:38 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Carolinamom

I've discussed this before. There is no excuse for the police to not have done this long ago, but I don't think they're going to do it. That leaves it to the defense. Here's what they can do: they can try to get him to cooperate, which he probably won't do. So, then they're going to have to threaten to subpoena his merchant credit card account, which is going to expose who his customers were that day so they can be questioned. There is no way this pimp is going to let that happen, so he's going to tell them what they want to know - how many dates she had earlier that day, how they paid, and who they were.


1,162 posted on 04/19/2006 4:05:56 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

I would hope that the testing dates of each of the samples would be noted by the company performing the tests, as well as when each sample was given. A defense attorney could surely make some holes in the prosecution's case with testing dates. I have no doubt that the defense will be able to get these boys off, but it is surely a sad state of affairs when a case like this is allowed to proceed this long.


1,163 posted on 04/19/2006 4:06:33 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: LucyJo

I can't imagine the DPD aren't familiar with them.


1,164 posted on 04/19/2006 4:06:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach

They probably did that before they questioned her.

I wonder if she's changing her story because she's been promised a payday, too, from Mangum's handlers.


1,165 posted on 04/19/2006 4:07:21 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

I have fantasies of all of us here going to Durham, spreading out, and following all the leads to get the info to the defense. LOL (We could do it too!)


1,166 posted on 04/19/2006 4:08:11 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Jrabbit

As I said before, the defense has already said that they have her on tape in several interviews and she's contradicting herself.


1,167 posted on 04/19/2006 4:08:26 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jrabbit

I guess there's no way to capture all the ways in which Kim has changed her story. I was just looking at google and don't see much.


1,168 posted on 04/19/2006 4:09:46 PM PDT by Peach
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To: GAgal

I heard that interview with Rita. She said, "In fact, she has had numerous problems with alcohol."


1,169 posted on 04/19/2006 4:10:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: abb
Don't know that I agree, Jeff. Such a thing makes hash of the presumption thingy ensconsed in US Juriprudence...

Oh, I'm not saying that it is a great policy, but apprently it has been in place for long time and the administration was only following it.

1,170 posted on 04/19/2006 4:10:29 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

They probably won't get their tuition back though. I cannot stop shaking my head when reading about this case. Pretty much everything about it stinks.


1,171 posted on 04/19/2006 4:11:01 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Jrabbit

He also said none of this stuff about her being slutty is true, either. But this is from the dude she was married to while she got preganant by some other guy, so yeah, she's not slutty in his mind. Of course, given the culture of his ethnic persuasion, that may actually be a truism. 70% of their kids are born out of wedlock.


1,172 posted on 04/19/2006 4:11:27 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: JeffAtlanta

You are correct. That was their excuse...


1,173 posted on 04/19/2006 4:11:41 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Howlin

This has nothing to do with the alleged rape, but I'm curious about who was watching her two kids while she was out. Does she live with her dad?


1,174 posted on 04/19/2006 4:11:55 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MindBender26
The fact that it's usually considered bad form to telephone one's girlfriend while rapeing a stripper/escort is important.

ROTFL, serious belly laughs. Anyone who has read Emily Post or Miss Manners knows the importance of rape etiquette.

Not to make light of rape, rape is and will always be serious. But she has made it harder for women who have been or will be raped.

Rape happens. It is committed by those in all walks of life. The next time someone charges a well known, high profile person for a rape which actually occured, how many eyebrows will be raised?

1,175 posted on 04/19/2006 4:13:10 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: Law is not justice but process

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The most discouraging thing about this thread is how few FReepers seem to have faith the system will work.
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It's called "experience."


1,176 posted on 04/19/2006 4:13:14 PM PDT by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: Howlin
Incredible.
My initial theories was this DA had something up his sleeve or he was just dumb.
Now I have a third; He's Malicious. (In California, the ID would be kicked)
1,177 posted on 04/19/2006 4:13:52 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Jezebelle

LOL, Jez, these pesky definitions. Like Clinton and "is." What was the movie where they referred to pimps as "love brokers?"


1,178 posted on 04/19/2006 4:13:52 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Howlin
As I said before, the defense has already said that they have her on tape in several interviews and she's contradicting herself.


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Not only the defense, she gave an interview with Rita Cosby, and while sympathetic to CM, Kim definitely stated she did not see or hear a rape.

Ugh..Three low life hustling sluts; Crystal, Kim and NiFong.
1,179 posted on 04/19/2006 4:14:24 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: mewzilla

I don't think she lives with him, but apparently she dumps her kids off there. She dumped them with him when she dropped off her car the next day.


1,180 posted on 04/19/2006 4:14:42 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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