Posted on 04/17/2006 10:11:24 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly
Since you're a Bill Pull...I mean Paxton fan, lol...I really recommend Frailty. His performance is chilling. The movie is incredible.
Here's some info if you're interested.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/frailty/
It's not you. All dialog and plotlines are there by design.
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"When the nun had become pregnant in her youth and given up her son(I saw that as Christian bashing)"
I didn't see "Christian bashing", I saw it as the way things were at the time. Paulie's at least 60, right? If he was born ca. 1945, that was a very different time. Pregnancy outside marriage was shameful, whatever your religion.
(I'm not saying we should go all the way back to those times, but a LITTLE shame at unwed reproduction wouldn't hurt today, IMHO.)
Calm down and look at the bright side; maybe they WILL kill him.
Personally, I like seeing a bunch of Mafia hoodlums being on the Democrat Party's side. It's almost fitting.
The show also takes place in NY/NJ, right? Hardly a conservative area. What did you expect?
I expect politics to be kept out of the show. It was stupid the way they insert the Bush bash anyway.
LOl that would be a great plot line. Tony muscling in on the gay antique dealers in N.H.
My wife is, and she's been trying to get me to watch it. I told her I would be happy to watch it if she invited over two of her single friends so the four of us could watch it together... She hasn't obliged me in that request, yet...
LOL! If you watched it, you wouldn't get near another woman EVER!!!
There is no reason to assume that history confirms it as a fact IN SPADES.
I see your point , but I think I was focusing more on the ''nun had sex'' part ,than on the ''nun gave up her son'' theme.........I constantly get the argument(living in Los Angeles) with the insane liberals that............''Christians are major hypocrites. They are just as immoral as everyone else.'' yada yada yada......So thats why I quickly saw Christian bashing from the get go..........
Read that Falco wanted the script changed as the thought of her voting for GWB was too upsetting -- yet the role she plays on the show doesn't phase her sensibilities.
I didn't read that into it at all, and I think it really was on a more basic level - it was wartime, a soldier and a young girl got carried away.... it happened a lot.
I remember reading a web article about Sirico, and I couldn't find the link if I tried, but he said something to the effect that, "except for Gandolfini and Falco, everyone else on the show is Republican". I'm not sure who "everyone else" means, as I highly doubt it (Steven Van Zandt sure isn't, and Michael Imperioli wrote the Godawful Columbus Day episode that had AJ quoting from Zinn's a People's History of the US), but it wouldn't surprise me if the actors who play Johnny Sac, Bobby Baccala, the Carmines, ect, are conservatives.
As for David Chase, who knows. I've listened to some of his commentaries, and during the commentary for "Amour Frou" (next to last episode of Season 3) after Carmella's line about Hilary Clinton, "She's a Role model for all of us", Chase says, "Yeah, Hilary Clinton is a role model for mobster's wives," implying that he isn't too fond of the Clintons. During the same episode, after Gloria Trilio goes on a rant about a California school forbiding the word "Christmas", Chase comments how that happened in real life in one of his kids' school districts, and how much that idiocy ticked him off--a hardcore leftist would probably condone rather than condemn the school's anti-Christmas actions.
But then again, you look at some of the leftwing tilt starting with episode four--the stereotypical Christian "young earth" evangelical, the narcoleptic Christian proudly wearing his Terri Schiavo vigil T-shirt like a badge of honor, the evil capitalist HMO, and the trendy coding of New Age "innocent, pre-industrial pre-capitalist" Amerind Buddhist mantras in the dialogue and embedded thematically into the storylines, and we just don't know. Is Meadow the voice of Chase, or is she a brilliant parody of a hypocritical white leftwing trust fund WTO protestor? Are the Arabs going to be genuine terrorists, thus reminders of the GWOT that the left so desperately wants us to forget about, or are they going to be scapegoats for an evil fascist Bushitler Homeland Security department looking to build concentration camps and force women to cook in the mobile home kitchen barefoot and pregnant (channeling Meadow Soprano)? Or is Chase simply poking at the absurdities of all ideologies and political spectrums, like a responsible social commentator would? I guess we'll find out.
Meadow is a young woman in this series, and typically, young college age men and women tend to lean towards the left. She also works at a firm that represents poor minorities. We all take these shows as political rants, but truly, it is life like. A young woman in college who rants about Bush? Wow, that's new. We all need to stop thinking in terms of politics and realize conservatism comes with age. I am only 21, but I grew up in a strong family and I have served my country. I know how precious freedom is. But that is beside the point. Please relaize this is actually how real life is. College kids love to argue politics and sadly, a lot of them are liberals.
*I think I try to convince myself of this so I could sit through Claires rants on Six Feet Under.
Isn't it possible that political bias being discussed has always been there, but is only being recognized now?
Personally, I see your point but only saw some of the examples you cite as a reflection of the attitudes of society in general.
More interesting are the parallels that can be drawn between the way organized crime operates, and the way our government operates........................
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