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'24' is a Show Full of Surreal Life Lessons
Morning Call ^ | 4/9/06 | Renee A. James

Posted on 04/09/2006 9:53:55 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

If you watch Kiefer Sutherland and "24," you learn to handle 60 minutes of tension, heartbreak and deception each week. And that's just between the characters of the president and the first lady.

But although fans love it, even the most ardent learn to overlook a lot regarding plot devices and characters.

Example: Jack Bauer, toughest guy on the planet and lead terrorist hunter, who can withstand torture, gunshots, drugs and severe mental anguish, found a pretty cool job for his annoying daughter, Kim.

After her stint as a runaway and a troubled teen in season one, she became an agent at the Counter Terrorism Unit (CTU).

Kim, whose previous claim to heroic fame was escaping a wildcat while lost in the mountains of southern California, was now among the elite specialists who would save the lives of everyday Americans should the very worst take place. God help us.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24; chloe; chloerocks; flank2; jackbauer; jackbauerpowerhour; lessons; tv; wwjbd
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To: COEXERJ145

I read that and laughed too. And doesn't he sound like a crochety old bachelor? LOL


241 posted on 04/09/2006 5:43:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: rintense

What was William Holden's path?.....alcohol?...drugs?....I don't have a clue.


242 posted on 04/09/2006 5:46:56 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: DJ MacWoW
I think it a lot of the interview is just him BSing.

I've read stuff that Carlos, Reiko, and others have said about Kiefer and they all say he is the nicest person in the world. Bring up his kids and he turns into a big softy.

243 posted on 04/09/2006 5:52:17 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: Guenevere

Alcohol


244 posted on 04/09/2006 5:53:22 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: Guenevere

Booze. It eventually took precedent over his career and his love life. It killed him.


245 posted on 04/09/2006 6:00:47 PM PDT by rintense
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To: COEXERJ145
I think it a lot of the interview is just him BSing.

A lot of what he said has been said before. Fans who have met him have said he's one of the nicest people they've ever met. But the alcohol stories are true as are the bar fights. He was in another one a few years back during 24 and had stitches that had to be covered with makeup. He also has glass in an elbow from a bar fight. And his ex-wife said they had 2 houses in Toronto because he didn't like kids clutter even though he loves his stepsons. The fan boards talk a lot about his drinking.

246 posted on 04/09/2006 6:12:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Oh I know the drinking is true. I've heard those stories before.


247 posted on 04/09/2006 6:16:20 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Thank you for the ping! :)


248 posted on 04/09/2006 6:31:24 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: COEXERJ145
I have an article about them selling their Toronto homes. It says this:

Ms Sutherland, who describes the marriage as "a work in progress" between two best friends, said they have very different tastes when it comes to homes.
"If you walk through my house and then through Kiefers,you know why we have 2 houses" she said.
"My house is more of a family flophouse with kids running around. His is meticulous and perfect. He likes really clean, fine lines. Single men love his house".


249 posted on 04/09/2006 6:31:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: rintense

Remind me who William Holden is. I know the name but can't recall the "who" behind it. :)


250 posted on 04/09/2006 6:34:45 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: EmilyGeiger
William Holden IMDb
251 posted on 04/09/2006 6:37:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I think you'd enjoy L&O: Criminal Intent.

They get too politically liberal from time to time for me to really enjoy it. I like that they added "Big" though to give us a break from Lapaglia, who apparently has been overcome by the vapors since the Bush reelection.

252 posted on 04/09/2006 7:21:35 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: COEXERJ145
Logan is a traitor but Itzin deserves an Emmy for how well he has played Logan.

Absolutely agree. Itzin is great as Logan.
253 posted on 04/09/2006 11:39:04 PM PDT by hummingbird (Bloggers killed the Media Stars.)
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To: COEXERJ145
It's a running joke that CTU has the worst security in the world. The writers answered a question about this on the recent Rush interview and said it happens simply for a matter of plot necessity.

And, it only has Level Two Security...moles apparently don't have too much trouble with Level Two CTUs!

Sandy "Burglar" probably knows where all the Level Two sites are....
254 posted on 04/09/2006 11:56:36 PM PDT by hummingbird (Bloggers killed the Media Stars.)
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To: hummingbird
Itzin is great as Logan.

and he looks so much like Nixon...

255 posted on 04/10/2006 6:32:18 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta (There's always a reason to choose life.)
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To: EmilyGeiger

William Holden was a huge movie star in the 50's.


256 posted on 04/10/2006 6:33:22 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta (There's always a reason to choose life.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

If I remember correctly, Vincent Dinofrio is a huge liberal.


257 posted on 04/10/2006 6:34:18 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta (There's always a reason to choose life.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Thanks! I knew that but for some reason I couldn't place the name with the face. I have seen several of his movies. Was he one of the actors that was on the communist blacklist during the McCarthy hearings? I believe he was extremely liberal, friends with Gregory Peck.


258 posted on 04/10/2006 9:15:28 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: SamAdams76
I've seen a lot of threads on Free Republic about this show "24." Is it any good? Or is it just another liberal claptrap show like "West Wing."

Hardly that. It's definitely hard core. Jack Bauer simply must have an autographed 8 x 10 glossy of Ronald Reagan in his office.

259 posted on 04/10/2006 9:19:46 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: SuziQ
President Logan has been an Asshat from the beginning.

A more stumbling, bumbling version of Richard Nixon.

260 posted on 04/10/2006 9:20:53 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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