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To: Uncle Bill

Excellent work Bill.

God Bless America !

2 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:15:35 PDT by Search4Truth [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Wow! Very succinctly put! Sad, also...

3 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:26:16 PDT by TBoone [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Quote Of The Day Submitted by: edlinn

4 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:34:48 PDT by RJayneJ [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill and EVERYONE ELSE: read this, remember it, copy to file, whatever you have to do...

Uncle Bill,

THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!

And a bump back to the top.

5 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:42:42 PDT by Darth Sidious (D-Sidious@excite.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Great post, thanks.

6 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:48:17 PDT by Astonished [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

May God bless you and yours and keep you all safe during the coming conflagration. I have admired you much.

Not good enough, said Thompson. Supported by the committee's senior Democrat (Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut), he launched his own investigation and began taking depositions this week. Thompson is inured to failure after five years of Justice Department run-arounds, but this time he plans full investigative techniques -- perhaps even fingerprints. All for some missing notes on a virtually forgotten scandal? Thompson is really aiming at what he calls the "shadow government" that controls both Justice and its nominal chief, Attorney General Janet Reno.

Here we have a senior Republican Senator admitting that a significant part of the federal government is run by a shadow government. Anyone who misses the significance of this is not paying attention, doesn't care about freedom, or is a plant from the dark side. IMHO

7 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:48:37 PDT by bondhue1 [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Has the time come? I cry from what you have written, because I have feel these things to be true.

8 Posted on 10/01/1999 23:18:08 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

So that's why clinton gets away with his crimes---CFR keeps him untouchable to do the job of the NWO(I mean "The American People").

9 Posted on 10/01/1999 23:54:19 PDT by Turtleman [ Reply | To 8 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump for the late night crowd.

10 Posted on 10/02/1999 01:20:34 PDT by Turtleman [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bttt, great Saturday morning fare.

# Identified Goals # Identified Motives

In this framework, the foreign policy agenda of this nation finally makes some sense, as do the economic, and social agendae foisted upon us by our not so two party system of government.

Go given the above scenario, what do you think the differences are between, Gore, Clinton, Bush, McCain, Buchanan, Forbes, Keyes, and Dole?

Yet as Americans, we are totally unsuited to stand up own our own two feet we have become so interdependent. Y2K poses a threat only from the standpoint that people are unable to care for themselves in this interdependent economy. We, for the most part have become slaves to the system.

The elitist would scourge the earth of most of us, leaving just enough slave labor to ensure their cushy life style. Look at Gore's book and what he thinks is a sustainable world population. It's but a small fraction of what we currently have. I don't think that this massive population reduction is going to be voluntary, you know like through natural attrition, retirement, etc..

Now we are being preped by the government for chemical and biological terrorist attacks, gee how convienent, Y2K distruptions, etcetera.

I wonder if the europeans are being preped like this, i.e., British Intelligence warns that Britian is vunerable to chemical, biological and information warfare attacks in conjuction with the Y2K rollover by its enemies? What are those in Spain, Italy, France, Germany being told regarding possible terrorist attacks in conjunction with Y2K? For crying out loud, there have been more terrorist activities in western europe than have ever been conducted here.

Or could it be that because American citizens are well armed that it's necessary for these terrorist attacks by foreign enemies (real or imagined) or home grown right wing radicals, religous zealots, white supremicists, hate groups, militias, and millenium freaks have to occur before they can justify disarming us. Look at those poor puppies in Australia disarmed and defenseless. Thank God our Founding Fathers established a Republic recognizing our basic God given rights.

While I can't say that I'm a huge Pat Buchanan fan, you have to give him some credit. I just hope he doesn't end up like George Wallace and he will if he starts making some progress and pulling voters to his camp. George Wallace early campaign success scared the living crap outta the One World wannabes. While I can't say I approved of his position on integration, I really must admire his guts for standing up for States Rights. Buchanan will be waxed if his national sovereignty issue starts making headway with the voters.

11 Posted on 10/02/1999 05:48:13 PDT by runamuk (candor@mindspring.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill; Alamo-Girl

Great - and informative, not to mention frightening - post, Uncle Bill.

A-G: For possible inclusion in your DSL.

12 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:08:18 PDT by logos (logos@searnet.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I will read this when I can...looks awesome. BTTT.

13 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:09:14 PDT by revolted [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill & bondhue1

As bondhue1 brought out about Thompson's comment on Shadow government, it's coming out of the shadows rapidly now. Their inbred arrogance leads them into a feeling of invulnerability. Maybe they are, but many of us won't stop trying to get the glazed eyes to see clearly.

Most of us also realize that Divine intervention is the only real fix for the problem. That'll happen also.

14 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:31:39 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

It is obvious that a republic in its rawest form provides far too many liberties for the boys who want to maintain power to be comfortable.

The contents of this article will never be taken seriously by the Rush Limbaughs and George Wills of the world, and to that extent, they are just as complicit in maintaining the power structure as are the Brokaws and Geraldos. The current political spectrum from conservative to liberal will not take this article seriously unless it is prepackaged as "KooK" material.

Sedition is the only answer if you believe the CFR runs things, and, I am afraid, we are far too comfortable to go down that painful road.

15 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:35:24 PDT by mcurb [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"All they know about public policy is what we tell them."

The times they are a'changin'.

16 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:38:57 PDT by Boyd [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Boyd

BTTT

17 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:52:44 PDT by runamuk (candor@mindspring.com) [ Reply | To 16 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Great post, UB. I often harken back to the fact that Communism always needed tremendous support to thrash about on the world scene as it did. Then you ask yourself, who supported them, and why?

18 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:55:48 PDT by Mmmike [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

BUMP!

19 Posted on 10/02/1999 07:04:17 PDT by Eastbound [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Things that go "BUMP" in the night. Moo.

20 Posted on 10/02/1999 07:26:27 PDT by RISU [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

You would all be interested in www.fame.org. JB

21 Posted on 10/02/1999 07:34:25 PDT by Jason_b [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Boyd

bttt

22 Posted on 10/02/1999 08:51:09 PDT by bondhue1 [ Reply | To 16 | Top | Last ] To: Jason_b

Bookmark...and, Fame (Jason's link)

23 Posted on 10/02/1999 09:13:05 PDT by Le-Roy [ Reply | To 21 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Sadly, all the sleepwalkers who need to read this post, wont. Half of them are at the game, the other half are at the mall.

24 Posted on 10/02/1999 09:28:13 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Another outstanding post, Uncle Bill!

25 Posted on 10/02/1999 09:32:46 PDT by Toot Uncommon [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Wasn't it Krushev(cannot spell correctly) that said the communists would sell America the rope with which to hang itself?

I am curious now to find out how many of these big corporate communists are in china celebrating 50 years of communism. I heard something like 1500 corporations were over there. Was supposed to be published in the Fortune 500 magazine.

26 Posted on 10/02/1999 10:27:08 PDT by rightside [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Let's bump it and see if any sleepwalkers stumble over it ;-)

27 Posted on 10/02/1999 14:27:33 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 24 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

bttt

28 Posted on 10/02/1999 14:48:33 PDT by MSSC6644 (mssc6644@aol.com) [ Reply | To 27 | Top | Last ] To: MSSC6644

"I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

Can't seem to get that across to most folks now. Can We?

29 Posted on 10/02/1999 16:36:25 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 28 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

Since "good" is a relative term these days, and because so few pulpits ring with the "truth," I fear that America will lose her greatness.

30 Posted on 10/02/1999 17:19:24 PDT by MSSC6644 (mssc6644@aol.com) [ Reply | To 29 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

I'll bump you right back!

31 Posted on 10/02/1999 17:51:11 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 27 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

I hope that these evil people are judged by God. If they have caused the wars, if they have caused the hunger, misery, death, torture, of so many humans...I hope they hear the screams of horror in their sleep. I have heard that seeds for crops will be made to only produce one crop, the seeds of these crops will not grow food. Is this true? We will be dependent on them for our food and fuel. They will starve us to death or freeze us to death....God help us.

32 Posted on 10/02/1999 20:45:20 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 31 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

Yes, what you've heard about seeds is true. Almost 100% of the seed on the market is treated so it will only germinate this year. You can't wait to use it next year, because it will rot in the ground. Also, the seed produced by these hybrids cannot be used for next year's garden. You have to buy more seed from the big boys.

As to wishing that God would judge the despots who are destroying our country....He assuredly will judge them, in His own good time, but in the meantime, we should pray for them, that they would repent and invite Him into their life. He loves them too.

33 Posted on 10/03/1999 07:31:45 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 32 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Despite ones opinion of philosophy, religion, government or the New World Order, I'm interested if anyone can find errors in this?

Other than some of the names of the players in the CFR/TLC list, this article is completely accurate.

It amazes me that some at FR and elsewhere cannot accept the fact that there is a plot by the elite, which includes the annointed GW Bush, to lead us into a New World Order. The evidence is out there for anyone to see.

Thanks for the most informative and timely post Uncle Bill. Keep up the good work!

34 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:45:51 PDT by ActionNewsBill [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Repent my ass, these people are the tools of satan. Are you going to get into the cattle car?

35 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:49:25 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 33 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

Relax, Bill. This man made NWO is going to collapse. It's what comes in it's place we need to be ready for.

36 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:55:36 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 34 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

"Are you going to get into the cattle car?"

I'll have no choice, and neither will you. But then, I'm not afraid to die. My future in the hereafter is decided upon. How about yours? (If you're not a Christian, you don't have to worry about the cattle car!)

37 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:59:53 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 35 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

If you're not a Christian, you don't have to worry about the cattle car!)***

They are after anyone who is religious, moral, believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not just Christians.

38 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:16:29 PDT by The Documentary Lady (inabetty@bigfoot.com) [ Reply | To 37 | Top | Last ] To: The Documentary Lady

I think you're going to be amazed at how many people go along with this when they have to. After all, "Who can make war with the Beast?"

39 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:22:22 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 38 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

We will!

40 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:38:29 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 39 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Relax, Bill. This man made NWO is going to collapse. It's what comes in it's place we need to be ready for.

Not sure I follow you on this one. What exactly do you mean?

I believe that the NWO is NOT man made, but is and has been the plan of satan all along. He is just using these high level government officials as willing pawns in his game, leading to the ultimate rule of the antichrist.

IMHO, and from reading the scriptures, I believe we will see this happen very soon. I believe the rapture will occur shortly after the antichrist makes his appearance here on earth.

41 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:40:04 PDT by ActionNewsBill [ Reply | To 36 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

"And it was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them; and power was given him over all kindreds, tongues and nations." Revelation 13:7

42 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:48:44 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 40 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

Man's efforts to create utopia will fail (the Phoenix crashes, Babylon falls, etc.) and THEN comes the Beast. The Beast has the answer to man's failure. The elite we despise will also fall under the spell and rule of the Beast. (He causes all, both small and great, to receive a mark......)

43 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:57:32 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 41 | Top | Last ] To: UncleBill

Think I'll go pack a few things for prison. Probably would'nt hurt to buy a gun.

44 Posted on 10/03/1999 10:53:54 PDT by jokar (OurGooseIsCooked) [ Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] To: logos

Thank you so much for the heads up, logos!!!

45 Posted on 10/03/1999 20:50:33 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | To 12 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

I think you're going to be amazed at how many people go along with this when they have to.***

I believe you're right about that. I've been watching for a long time and what I've noticed is that worldwide, people who are religious are being branded as fundamentalists, fanatics or terrorists with terrorists being reserved for those people who will stand up and fight. It's hard to stay the course when everyone around you thinks you're a lunatic killer including your family and your friends.

46 Posted on 10/04/1999 04:09:03 PDT by The Documentary Lady (inabetty@bigfoot.com) [ Reply | To 39 | Top | Last ] To: The Documentary Lady & babylonian

", we should pray for them, that they would repent and invite Him into their life. He loves them too."

He WOULD love them, if they asked for that. At least, that's how I was taught.

More are realizing the level of control that the lord of the earth has gained. But then, it's all written down :-)

Gettin' to be decision time (Free Will).

47 Posted on 10/05/1999 17:38:40 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 46 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Great work Uncle Bill!

48 Posted on 10/05/1999 17:48:42 PDT by rbosque [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: rbosque

bttt

49 Posted on 10/05/1999 19:05:17 PDT by tena [ Reply | To 48 | Top | Last ] To: tena

Wolf: Death to the New World Order Long live America!

50 Posted on 10/05/1999 19:31:02 PDT by wolfpsy [ Reply | To 49 | Top | Last ] To: wolfpsy

bttt

51 Posted on 11/05/1999 21:13:45 PST by tena [ Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | Top | Last ] To: tena

Wolf: Long live America! One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all!

Death to the New World Order.

52 Posted on 11/05/1999 21:34:01 PST by wolfpsy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | Top | Last ] To: wolfpsy

Woe be to the oathbreakers and usurpers! Bump!

53 Posted on 11/05/1999 21:45:39 PST by Eastbound [ Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Please forgive them GOD, for they know not what they do.

Thanks Uncle Bill for a succinct, serious synopsis of our planned demise by the dark forces. Power and greed do strange things to our unwanted bedfellows. Pray they see the LIGHT and turn to it NOW for their own sake and ours.

54 Posted on 11/05/1999 22:05:41 PST by luvmysuv [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

The author of this essay is Richard Eastman. I have the essay, which my wife transcribed from a written original, at my site at :

The Shadow Government

FReeregards.

55 Posted on 12/03/1999 16:52:54 PST by Jeff Head (jeffhead@bigplanet.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Jeff Head

The Shadow Government of The United States and The Decline of America

By Richard D. Eastman November 1994

Thanks so much Jeff. Can you tell me anything about Richard Eastman?

56 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:08:18 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

The article was given to me by Mr. Gillespie at Almost HEaven Idaho, near Kamiah, when I visited there in 1995 with an old cowboy friend of mine. That's Bo Gritz planned community and Gillespie handed them to us as we spoke with him at his house.

That's all I know of it, and we kept it until we got on the internet when we transcribed it. Never have met Mr. Eastman, but can feel his spirit in his article and feel him to be a compatriot.

57 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:13:57 PST by Jeff Head (jeffhead@bigplanet.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

""I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power."

And today, one of the great Melting Pots (ie:Chicago) is moving against the Baptist Church in what they call a potential Hate Crime. Set,Match,Game, Checkmate, this deal is rapidly coming unglued. I haven't a clue to the future, but it looks ugly as hell. After seeing the Seattle gig unfold, if Clinton pulls something in Y2K I'd call off any bets. America will pay, have no doubts, all it takes is a jaunt thru history, and sadly to say, it probably deserves what is coming. I fear for my Children and my Grand Kids. rt

58 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:44:21 PST by rt1 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bumped

Uncle Bill, your posts are worth a bookmark.

59 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:51:38 PST by Claymoremind [ Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | Top | Last ] To: rt1

At 54 I'm just a bit old to be runnin' around in the woods again.

But I will if I have to :-)

60 Posted on 12/03/1999 20:04:13 PST by NDCORUP [ Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | Top | Last ] To: Jeff Head

Jeff, the first time I saw this was here. I felt as though my mind was being read and placed on paper. You will notice who posted that thread. I believe he knows it to be the truth. I know I do. But there are those with vast and mighty knowledge of all things that like to post Reyolds wrap graphics and howl at the moon. I would like very much for the author to come to Free Republic and participate. I am assuming he can put up with the kook graphics and grief, etc.

61 Posted on 12/03/1999 20:44:58 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | Top | Last ] To: The Documentary Lady

Thank you for your comments dear lady. I am a conservative, a Hindu, am American, and I love God and liberty. When they come for me, I have a surprise for them.

62 Posted on 12/03/1999 21:14:44 PST by vedicstar [ Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | Top | Last ] To: vedicstar

When they come for me, I have a surprise for them.***

People are waking up to the fact that an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. They are indeed in for the shock of their lives if they come. Very glad you're on board. We may have started out as a Christian country, but no country on earth has had the sucess of many living together without the horrible bloody curse of culturalism. xlinton would have us think different, but divide and conquor is the oldest tactic in the book and people have to be reminded of it in just those terms. There is no time, any more, for arguing. Rise or fall, we're in it together.

63 Posted on 12/04/1999 14:15:52 PST by The Documentary Lady (inabetty@bigfoot.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

Further research for the truth of Uncle Bill's post can be found at www.informamerica.com, http://www.conservative.org/vieir100.htm Please read text, it will take you several months to get through the info on informamerica, but it is worthwhile. Order two things from them to get started. The truth about the Income Tax (video) Losing your illusions (book). Suffice to say you better protect everything you own through a trust before you file your Affadavit of Revocation from the Social Security Administration. If you need some relevant sites or research tools e-mail me, and I can guide you to some of the best. Of course you can also high tail it to your local law library and search for Supreme Court decisions on this matter, attend an open to the public meeting at the save-a-patriot-fellowship foundation, you can e-mail Gordon from the informamerica site and he will send you days and times. This matter is of the utmost urgency, and for those that are confused, make no mistake, we either stop funding this rush to socialism and one world, or we will wake up pledging fidelity to the peoples republic of the world. Taxula

64 Posted on 01/12/2000 07:40:59 PST by Taxula (keyesforprez@hotmail.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

I have been researching similar things for about a year, There is nothing inaccurate in that article. Bump to the top It has been a really scary, unreal year for me. I had DSL installed and they found a bug on my telephone wire. The tech could not explain how it got there or why. I don't hold anymore conversations on this subject, and I have stopped writing to the government for information. I am even unsure whether my computer has been bugged and I'm sure it probably has. My husband is a computer tech, and ran some tests on it, proclaimed it to be clean so I trust him and hope it is. Careful who you ask for info. In the struggle to regain our freedom, I'm sure it is going to require huge amounts of personal sacrifice.

65 Posted on 01/12/2000 10:36:45 PST by Taxula (Keyesforprez@hotmail.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Yeah, sounds like the enumeration of citizens by usage of the elective and illegal social security number. Buy sell or trade without one of these. You will find it damn near impossible. You will also lose your job once you unelect yourself from what is hailed as an application, voluntary procedure. When it gets switched to 666 is anybody's guess, but the foundation is already laid, and tracking everything you do is easy to find out. My advice? File an Affidavit of Revocation immediately, become an anonynomous and unenumerated citizen, put everything you own into trust, (offshore) and join the save-a-patriot-fellowship. Get it? No more tax, no more tracking, freedom.

66 Posted on 01/12/2000 10:46:32 PST by Taxula (keyesforprez@hotmail.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] To: Search4Truth

Quote of the day!

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of liberalism, they will through incrementalism adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

Norman Thomas

67 Posted on 01/12/2000 10:58:39 PST by n4sir [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Now more than ever, it is time to save your soul. Being a believer in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of Gods children I hope I will be gone before the NWO sweeps in to take control. As the foundation for the NWO has been laid the last 100 years, it was prophesied long before in the Bible. I suggest reading this book, Are We Living In The End Times by Tim Lahaye and Jerry Jenkins. Save your souls and the NWO won't matter to you any longer.

68 Posted on 01/12/2000 11:18:43 PST by one_hit [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] Bump.

69 Posted on 01/27/2000 18:04:56 PST by Le-Roy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

There is this story told of Lincoln... One day a lawyer-colleague of Lincoln's approaches him in his office and asks about the man dusting himself off in picking himself up off the street after obviously having been thrown out of Lincoln's office.

Lincoln tells him that the man tried to bribe him.

His lawyer friend says then, You know, I can understand your being angry, Abe, but why did you see fit to physically having to throw him out? And Lincoln says, the man was coming too close to my price...

70 Posted on 01/27/2000 19:17:58 PST by metalbird1 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Uncle Bill,

Excellent piece of work!!!!

CATO

71 Posted on 01/28/2000 00:26:24 PST by Cato [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Cato

thoughtful bump

72 Posted on 01/28/2000 00:45:44 PST by tanglecreek (tanglecreek@uswestmail.net) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | Top | Last ] To: tanglecreek....ALL.........A very good read!!!!!!!!

BTTT!!!!!

73 Posted on 03/30/2000 20:34:44 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria......You should enjoy this.

BTTT!!!!!!!

74 Posted on 03/30/2000 22:03:56 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill...... a bump for the early morning readers.

BTTT!!!

75 Posted on 03/31/2000 03:09:18 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Taxula.....Insightful post.....The issue is Globalism vs. U.S. Sovereignty!!!

Just FYI you might want to have your husband erase all the cookies except those that you can identify and want to leave intact.

Last fall I woke up about 4am one night and my computer was dialing my ISP server. I didn't let it finish because I didn't want it to have a chance to send anything. I erased all of the cookies and started over.

76 Posted on 03/31/2000 04:41:16 PST by eazdzit (You teach what you tolerate.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill, eazdzit

Anyone? Anyone?

It's all pretty well laid out in this article, now, isn't it? Thank you much, Uncle Bill!

Thanks, eaz, for "paging" me. This is a keeper, to be sure!

77 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:23:38 PST by Mercuria [ Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

Flag of the New World Order

78 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:27:26 PST by crypt2k [ Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | Top | Last ] To: Ticonderoga, AnnaZ, incindiary, IllumiNOTi, Arator

A Freeper "oldie but goodie" BUMP!

79 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:28:51 PST by Mercuria [ Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

This should be bumped often and everyday.

80 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:43:15 PST by Maze [ Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

Thanks, Mercuria!!

For more on those insolent Globalist vermin who would see our Sovereign Republic reduced to a province in the New World Order, see "Bad Links" at":

Bilderberg.Org

81 Posted on 03/31/2000 10:39:05 PST by Ticonderoga [ Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | Top | Last ] To: Ticonderoga.....We should require a Sovereignty Pledge From our candidates..

BTTT!!!!!

See this: Is It Time For A "Sovereignty Oath" By Federal/State Officials and Military?

It wouldn't hurt to require a security clearance.

82 Posted on 03/31/2000 15:25:12 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

Thanks for the flag!

BUMP

83 Posted on 03/31/2000 15:38:25 PST by incindiary [ Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | Top | Last ] To: eazdzit

Swearing to uphold the Constitution should be an automatic "Sovereignty Oath"...I'd also favor banning from public office any candidate who held allegiance to any Globalist Secret Society.

Calling for a "New World Order" or "Global Political Community" would be grounds for lifetime banishment to Uranus...

84 Posted on 03/31/2000 17:00:48 PST by Ticonderoga [ Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | Top | Last ] To: Ticonderoga

You stated.."I'd also favor banning from public office any candidate who held allegiance to any Globalist Secret Society."

I agree, except it should not matter whether or not it was secret. If it is Globalist it should be considered a conflict of interest.

85 Posted on 03/31/2000 17:23:09 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate@It's The stupid Media) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | Top | Last ] To: Maze

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86 Posted on 04/01/2000 08:46:30 PST by Ticonderoga [ Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill...... a bump for the early morning readers.

Take a look at this idea. Is It Time For A "Sovereignty Oath" By Federal/State Officials and Military? (Wording Follows)

87 Posted on 04/15/2000 07:06:40 PDT by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Boyd,jedediah smith,bvw,Aristiedes,Askel5,shield,Anochka,Donald Stone.W.Al B,Alamo-girl

bmp

88 Posted on 05/14/2000 12:32:39 PDT by Joe Montana [ Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | Top | Last ] To: Joe Montana

volley bmp!

89 Posted on 05/14/2000 13:43:43 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"If we take those corporations that the Rockefeller family has 10% control, or 5%, and at least two members of their board of directors,

we have the following:

Exxon, Mobil Oil, Standard of California, Standard of Indiana, International Harvester, Inland Steel, Marathon Oil, Quaker Oats, Wheeling-Pittsburgh Steel, Freeport Sulphur, and International Basic Economy Corporation."

90 Posted on 05/14/2000 15:20:51 PDT by Joe Montana [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Joe Montana

yep

91 Posted on 05/14/2000 19:40:25 PDT by Boyd [ Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Your post is like the handwriting on the wall. And Babylon will fall.

92 Posted on 05/14/2000 19:48:50 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Excellant post. About all I can think to do about this is pray.

93 Posted on 05/14/2000 20:35:20 PDT by grayfox (bbovaird@earthlink.net) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump

94 Posted on 05/15/2000 11:47:36 PDT by wooly_mammoth [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bttt

95 Posted on 05/17/2000 07:50:34 PDT by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks. I'll print this one for my friends that think I have lost my mind. It's comprehensive and hard to dispute. I did the same with an Echelon piece last year -

This is exactly why I would consider a vote for Buchanan. He is the only one who will allude to these problems that had the slightest hope of getting into the debates, at least.

96 Posted on 05/17/2000 08:40:17 PDT by Horticultcha [ Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | Top | Last ] To: Horticultcha

I'll print this one for my friends that think I have lost my mind.

You and I are FREAKS down here ... face it! =)

97 Posted on 05/17/2000 08:41:36 PDT by Askel5 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | Top | Last ] To: Askel5

Perhaps we are meant to be the scribe-babes!!!

98 Posted on 05/17/2000 09:29:16 PDT by Horticultcha [ Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | Top | Last ] To: Horticultcha

Bttt

99 Posted on 05/24/2000 00:03:44 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 98 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump for them that don't believe in them

100 Posted on 05/24/2000 09:18:06 PDT by Horticultcha [ Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | Top | Last ] To: Horticultcha, Uncle Bill

bttt

101 Posted on 06/03/2000 03:04:23 PDT by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | Top | Last ] To: Rowdee

In 1912, Woodrow Wilson became President. His chief advisor and administrator was Col. Edward Mandell House, who was a proponent of world government, a representative of the European banking dynasties, and had close ties with the Morgan interests.

In 1912, House wrote a book, wherein he laid out a plan to bring America into a world government. ("Philip Dru: Administrator", by Col. Edward Mandell House, 1912; available at General Birch Services, P.O. Box 8040 Appleton, Wis. 549138040). On page 222, he wrote:

"...our Constitution and our laws...are not only obsolete, but even grotesque."

His plan, and, to use his own words, "a conspiracy," would seek to achieve:

1. The establishment of a central bank; 2. A progressive graduated income tax; and 3. Control of both political parties in the U.S.

What was House's goal? "Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx". House, who called himself the "unseen guardian angel" of the Federal Reserve Act, in concert with the Wall Street and European bankers, convinced President Wilson of the central bank concept.

The Federal Reserve Act was passed on Dec. 23, 1913 (by a vote of 298 to 60 in the House of Representatives, and 43 to 25 in the Senate).

And we're extremists??? Given the two choices available, I'll gladly stick with the fringe. How 'bout you? (grin)

102 Posted on 07/19/2000 23:55:12 PDT by Benighted [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I'm still looking for that photo of Nicolea Ceausescu, FORMER HEAD BUREAUCRAT/TYRANT of Rumania, lying in a puddle of his OWN blood outside his guilded castle, shortly after his trial (final job performance review) by his fellow countrymen.

His equally evil wife was tried and executed that day, but the lives of his grown son and daughter were spared by the citizens of Rumania. A testiment to the restraint and compassion of the Rumanian people.

103 Posted on 07/29/2000 15:20:08 PDT by CIBvet (AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY FOREVER -- DEATH FOR TRAITORS) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: eazdzit

Those were not cookies, but a self executable spyware file you downloaded without knowledge. Unless you identified the source of the incident, the "spyware" is still on your hard drive--still spying on you.

104 Posted on 07/29/2000 16:31:12 PDT by kloss [ Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | Top | Last ] To: CIBvet

Yes, these pictures are not easy to find. Know why? It's every bureaucrats/politician nightmare. Let's not give the subjects any ideas.

From Here:

105 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:07:15 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump

106 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:12:49 PDT by wooly_mammoth [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

late double volley bump :)

107 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:14:29 PDT by wooly_mammoth [ Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | Top | Last ] To: Michael Rivero

Commenting on debt, Benjamin Franklin warned:

"The burden of debt is as destructive to freedom as subjugation by conquest."

You see Michael, many folks here are smarter than Ben, just ask them. Debt will destroy a nation just like being defeated in conquest. That's how it will happen.

108 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:34:56 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Yes, these pictures are not easy to find. Know why? It's every bureaucrats/politician nightmare. Let's not give the subjects any ideas.

Yes, otherwise the grand illusion power emanates from the top of the pyramid is shattered; when, in fact, it is ceded by those at the base.

109 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:53:43 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Makes a person wonder how a crooked bureaucRAT would feel to suddenly receive a copy out of the blue. Wouldn't have to say much else.

110 Posted on 07/29/2000 19:20:15 PDT by CIBvet (AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY -- Of,By &For THE PEOPLE .... NOT some Corporate-Government Empire/Cabal) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | Top | Last ] To: wooly_mammoth and Uncle Bill

Thank you so much for the heads up!!! I've been going over the article in more detail, and felt I needed to give y'all a heads up, too:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine, and other publications whose directors have attended our meetings, and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years...It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years."

I have on several occasions used my various search engines to look for a mainstream source for the above quote which also appears in this article.

I have never been able to find it on any journalistic site like the Washington Times, WorldNetDaily, etc. The only places I have seen it are on sites which are discussing the N.W.O., Bilderbergers, Illuminati, etc. Over the years, I’ve seen it attributed to two different locations and two different dates, and once it was mentioned that it had been published in the French Press but with no specific information that could be used to authenticate it. Most current uses of this quote say it was by David Rockefeller in June of 1991, in Germany at Baden-Baden at a Bilderberg meeting.

It appears in the above article which was repeated in numerous locations on the web, and is also quoted on a number of other websites but I've never found it attributed to a verifiable or reliable journalistic source.

I am very concerned about the authenticity of the quote. And since the Bilderbergs and their meetings are allegedly secretive, it baits the question of how the transcript would have gotten out. So if you have a solid source for this or a lead on the French Press article I’d sure appreciate knowing about it. If it can be confirmed, it is absolutely stunning!

We’ve seen the false Reno “cultist” definition spread around the internet on a regular basis. The same holds true of the false Gore John 16:3 incident. Each time someone relies on these false statements, it ends up discrediting the rest of their work. It makes me wonder if someone “plants” these things?! Anyway, without a solid source, I’d caution against using the quote or would strongly recommend including a statement that it has not yet been authenticated.

111 Posted on 07/29/2000 22:07:45 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

Feet of Clay

Mysteries of the Shadow Government

112 Posted on 07/30/2000 00:47:58 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you so much for the link!!! IMHO, the disclaimer sentences Geoff Metcalf uses in his article are a good way to handle the quote whenever it is used. Then if it is proven false or ridiculed, the rest of the article stands on its own merit:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_metcalf/20000214_xcgme_feet_clay.shtml WorldNetDaily Feet of Clay 2/14/00 Geoff Metcalf “…There are two significant quotes, allegedly taken from Bilderberg meetings, which I have referenced in the past. The chilling Kissinger quote I have posted to my web page I have heard on tape. The David Rockefeller comments from the June 1991 Bilderberg meeting in Baden Baden, Germany, I have only third hand. People can and will challenge the accuracy of the quote, but the substance of it seems more than probable. ……”

It must be the "mother hen" in me because of all that this forum has been through ---- I do tend to be particularly cautious whenever the Washington Post is part of the equation.

113 Posted on 07/30/2000 08:07:45 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

I guess we'll have to call Vernon Jordan to verify. Do you think Monica could ask him for us?

From Here: David Rockefeller speaking at the Bilderberger meeting in June 1991 in Baden Baden, Germany. This meeting was also attended by Dan Quayle and Bill Clinton, who was introduced to these international traitors by none other than Vernon Jordan. If you or I attended meetings, held in total secrecy, surrounded by guards armed with UZI's and other assorted assault weapons and planned the downfall of America, we would be tried for sedition. These globalists, i.e. Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, have sold out America for their own lust of power. Reality check for them: America will NOT fall to her knees for these petty henchmen of the world order.

114 Posted on 07/30/2000 09:59:37 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I detect some chagrin in your reply, Uncle Bill! Truly, I'm not trying to be difficult here ... I mainly hope to inoculate the forum from any new problems with the Washington Post.

The lead from the other thread is encouraging because I imagine the attorney would have checked his sources before publishing the quote. Hopefully he will share that information with us!

115 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:22:18 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | Top | Last ] To: Benighted

btt

116 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:40:04 PDT by flanew [ Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Excellent post! There seem to be some sudden believers on this thread!

117 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:47:06 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

No no AG, not at all. I appreciate your efforts for accuracy. I was just having this picture in my mind (I always do when Vernon's name is mentioned) where Monica is sitting in the car with Vernon and they are talking about the devil's little problem, and Monica says, "I don't want to end up like Caity Mahoney," or something like that. Keep on trucking! 8-)

118 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:58:35 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

I think post #7, in those circumstances by bondhue1 tells us a great deal:

"Supported by the committee's senior Democrat (Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut), he launched his own investigation and began taking depositions this week. Thompson is inured to failure after five years of Justice Department run-arounds, but this time he plans full investigative techniques -- perhaps even fingerprints. All for some missing notes on a virtually forgotten scandal? Thompson is really aiming at what he calls the "shadow government" that controls both Justice and its nominal chief, Attorney General Janet Reno."

Why did he say that? For what purpose? He didn't have to. He could have used many other terms. No, he stated "shadow government". Regards.

119 Posted on 07/30/2000 13:07:16 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you so very much for the clarification! Whew! I feel lots better now...

That's an excellent point about Senator Thompson!!! Politicians - and especially attorney-politicians, choose their words very carefully. We can be sure he had something specific in mind - just like when he opened the hearings claiming that the Chinese were trying to influence the elections!!!

120 Posted on 07/30/2000 14:17:21 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 119 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

The Search for Wisdom And Freedom

121 Posted on 08/17/2000 02:15:28 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks for the link!

122 Posted on 08/17/2000 06:14:00 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"1) The 16th Amendment was never properly ratified. This has been proven in court. "

I was unaware ratification had been adressed in court (other than the usual refusal to perform due diligence by the judges). Can you elaborate?

123 Posted on 10/02/2000 18:19:18 PDT by Michael Rivero [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: bondhue1

Bttt

124 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:24:26 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump

125 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:27:38 PST by SauronOfMordor [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Uncle Bill told us so.

What do you think about the current state of affairs. Do you think Clinton is holding out for the pardon?;)

126 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:31:46 PST by rubbertramp [ Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | Top | Last ] To: rubbertramp, Babylonian, Uncle Bill

"Excellent post! There seem to be some sudden believers on this thread!" from July.

Bet there's More Now!

127 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:54:02 PST by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill, Bondhue1

These won't come up for me this morning. Is it just me? :-)

The Bush Team's mistake, and How it Might be Corrected

LR Company Sold Software that Created Florida Ballots

** CANVASING COMMISSION CAN REJECT RECOUNT - HERE'S THE LAW !!!

128 Posted on 11/14/2000 04:10:09 PST by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 127 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I have read the book you mention, also Checque Mate by Jeffrey Baker and Circle of Deceit by Texe Marrs. My problem with all this is that there is nothing new at all being published about the machinations of the Bilderbergers, CFR, Trilateralists, Club of Rome, etc...Everything you read ends up like a history lesson. There is nothing current. Even the list of Clinton cabinet members you posted is seven years old.

I remember one time Clinton was supposed to be on "vacation", right when the Bilderbergers were meeting in France. Not a word or picture from Slick for several days.

129 Posted on 11/14/2000 04:28:07 PST by Luke21 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill rdavis84

Uncle Bill, I'll bump ya' back on this oldie but goodie!

rdavis84, thanks for the heads up!

130 Posted on 11/14/2000 10:56:16 PST by babylonian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | Top | Last ] To: sasquatch

Plonk.

131 Posted on 11/14/2000 12:00:27 PST by Carry_Okie [ Reply | Private Reply | To 130 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bttt

132 Posted on 11/15/2000 11:02:10 PST by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bttt

133 Posted on 11/15/2000 11:02:11 PST by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Stand Watch Listen

BTTT

134 Posted on 11/18/2000 19:14:18 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill, phikapmam, tlbshow, freethesheeples, travis mcgee, manny festo

What a chilling read.....

135 Posted on 12/08/2000 20:47:04 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan (Bircher bump!) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

The Decline and Fall of the American Empire

136 Posted on 12/09/2000 00:15:26 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"Good" morning!

137 Posted on 12/09/2000 09:36:00 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | Top | Last ] To: owen kellog, mudboy slim

bttt

138 Posted on 12/09/2000 18:57:00 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I have long felt that Clinton saw himself as leaving the Oval Office to one day become King of the World. After reading this it seems to make much more sense. I heard Cal Thomas say on the Fox News Network today that "if Clinton is indited after he leaves office Bush will pardon him". After reading this post that also makes sense. Keep praying.

139 Posted on 12/09/2000 20:44:19 PST by The Real Deal [ Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Just wanted to lay this out there for the enjoyment of others. I ran across this little nugget early this morning...

To: metalbird1

It appears we are checkmated. With the pawns, a puzzled look, facing the king. The tentacles touch, they squeeze. It is complete. This next year will be the most astonishing year in our history. [bold added]

5 Posted on 07/09/1999 03:45:12 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | To 4 | Top | Last ]

Hey...I think Uncle Bill is at least as good as Nostradamus...;^)

Here is a direct link to this post...

Interesting insight

140 Posted on 12/09/2000 21:03:12 PST by Le-Roy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan , Uncle Bill

Right on The Mark

141 Posted on 12/10/2000 04:08:40 PST by Manny Festo [ Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

Thanks Callahan!!! It sounds alot like the speach I heard on cspan a coupla years ago by Mcmannis.It seems if one wants to excell in politics one must be a member.Good stock advice in it as well(hehehe).I reckon all that is needed now is a stock market crash,which seems to be on its way,and they will be able to impament the last of the new constitution.I coppied it,lots of churches around here. I will try to get the info into the hands of some pastors, or whatever you call them.I am a man of faith,I just havent found a church I trust yet.A rep from the JBS. informed me long ago,my life hasent been the same since,I dont know if its better or worse with your eyes open.Kinda like the movie "THE MATRIX" where the traitor wanted to go back into the matrix and just have a good life.He didnt care that it wasnt real.That seems to be the attitude of many folks today.We have become a nation of lazy people,nobody is willing to fight.

142 Posted on 12/10/2000 08:55:44 PST by DAGO [ Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | Top | Last ] To: DAGO

....I just havent found a church I trust yet.

Shepherd's Chapel

143 Posted on 12/10/2000 09:04:28 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 142 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

This is the last paragraph of a letter to the editor in the new (Dec 18th) issue of the New American:

In his farewell address to the nation in 1837 President Andrew Jackson gave one of the clearest expositions of the federalist principle: "It is well known that there have always been those amongst us who wish to enlarge the powers of the General Government.... Its legitimate authority is abundantly sufficient for all the purposes for which it was created, and its powers being expressly enumerated, there can be no justification for claiming anything beyond them.

Every attempt to excercise power beyond those limits should be promply and firmly opposed, for one evil example will lead to other measures still more mischievous; and if the principle of constructive powers or supposed advantages or temporary circumstances shall ever be permitted to justify the assumption of a power not given by the Constitution, the General government will before long absorb all the powers of legislation, and you will have in effect but one Consolodated government....

....and every friend of our free institutions should always be prepared to maintain unimpared and in full vigor the rights of sovreignty of the States and to confine the action of the General Government strictly to the sphere of its appropriate duties".

FYI

144 Posted on 12/10/2000 11:19:34 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks for this incredibly terrific post. It is good to see the old gang from FR still sitting on the sidelines and working hard as usual.

145 Posted on 12/10/2000 11:37:54 PST by vetwife [ Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks. I have learned much from your posts.

146 Posted on 12/10/2000 12:28:01 PST by janetgreen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

Excellent quote!

Restore the republic! the real work is only beginning...........Covenantor

147 Posted on 12/10/2000 12:42:07 PST by Covenantor [ Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

A couple of years ago, I was on the road for many weeks, working on a very hard job, away from my loving wife and children. I was in a fine downtown hotel, and it was 5AM in the morning, and I was getting up to go on a sales call, and I flicked on the tv and Shepherds' Chapel came on.

I watched, and learned. It filled me up with warmth and happiness, and I didn't feel so alone anymore.

But on another point: This thread is TOOOO Long. Can you do a "continuation" and then we can delve deeper down? Thanks.

148 Posted on 12/10/2000 13:19:14 PST by Aggressive Calvinist [ Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump for later read.

149 Posted on 12/10/2000 13:20:56 PST by jslade [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

This needs to be repeated as referenced and sourced in the WND article in numerous places (for posterity, in light of Rockefellers comments)---

"His BBC statements mirrored his remarks to the World Federalist Association in October of 1999, when he said, "Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty. That would be a bitter pill." He then went on to underscore the heresy by saying, "Time will not wait. Democracy, civilization itself, is at stake. Within the next few years we must change the basic structure of our global community from the present anarchic system of war to a new system governed by a democratic U.N. federation." ----------Walter Cronkite

150 Posted on 12/10/2000 14:04:39 PST by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 119 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

My dad interviewed Norman thomas, head of the American Socialist Party, in 1939.

At that time, Thomas told my father that FDR had already introduced his entire Socialist Party platform into being in the US Government.

The Depression of the 30s was the excuse for a socialist coup by the Roosevelt Administration, per the Head of the Socialist Party, USA.

151 Posted on 12/10/2000 15:20:12 PST by FReethesheeples [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: FReethesheeples

bump, I am going to keep bumping this article until I get callouses. Uncle Bill sure did a GREAT JOB !

152 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:15:04 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

BTTT

153 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:21:19 PST by JusticeLives [ Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you for this. It is very scary to learn things about what is REALLY going on, but at the same time I want to know as much as I can.

154 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:27:24 PST by Katarinabear (katarinateddy@yahoo.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

I believe the rapture will occur shortly after the antichrist makes his appearance here on earth.

And I believe that Rev. 10:7 points us to the timing of the rapture.

Of course I hope I'm wrong and you are right. A pre-tribulation rapture is so much more palatable.

155 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:43:43 PST by Osama [ Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Again Sir, my most humble gratitude. An amazing compilation readily available for those who wish to become informed!

156 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:51:38 PST by philman_36 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: B4Ranch

Thanks, if not for your bump, I may has missed this.

157 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:52:43 PST by sgw587 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | Top | Last ] To: FReethesheeples

FDR had already introduced his entire Socialist Party platform into being in the US Government

The Socialist Party Platform of 1932 Programs Adopted by the Roosevelt Administration A federal appropriation of $5,000,000,000 for immediate relief for those in need to supplement state and local appropriations. Federal Emergency Relief Act (FERA), May 12, 1933 A federal appropriation of $5,000,000,000 for public works and roads, reforestation, slum clearance, and decent homes for the workers by the federal government, states, and cities. Public Works Administration (PWA), established by the National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA), May 17, 1933 Civilian Conservation Corps (Reforestation) Act (CCC), March 31, 1933 Home Owners Loan Corp. (HOLC), established by the Home Owners Refinancing Act, April 13, 1933 Other agencies Legislation providing for the acquisition of land, buildings, and equipment necessary to put the unemployed to work producing food, fuel, and clothing, and for the erection of housing for their own use. Various experimental communities were established toward these ends. The six-hour day and the five-day work-week without a reduction in wages. The Black bill for the establishment of a thirty-hour week was not passed by Congress. A comprehensive and efficient system of free public employment agencies. Each state now maintains such offices throughout its jurisdiction. A compulsory system of unemployment compensation with adequate benefits, based upon contributions by the government and by employers. Provided by the Social Security Act, 1936, with additional contributions by employees. Old age pensions for men and women sixty years of age and over. Provided by the Social Security Act, 1936, for those sixty-five years of age and over. Health and maternity insurance. Provided by the Social Security Act, 1936. Improved systems of workmen's compensation and accident insurance. Senate bill 2793, introduced May 9, 1935, by Senator Wagner, culminated in passage by Congress of the Wagner Act, a comprehensive labor-management act. The abolition of child labor. Statutory education requirements and minimum work age laws. Government aid to farmers and small homeowners to protect them against mortgage foreclosure and a moratorium on sales for nonpayment of taxes by destitute farmers and unemployed workers. Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA), March 16, 1933 Farm Credit Administration (FCA), March 27, 1933 Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA), 1938 Federal Housing Administration (FHA) HOLC Adequate minimum wage laws Established by the National Recovery Administration (NRA), created by NIRA, May 17, 1933. In 1935, the NRA was found to be unconstitutional by the untied States Supreme Court. Nonetheless, minimum wage limits still exist. Source

158 Posted on 12/10/2000 23:06:40 PST by Sandy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

A most excellent "little book"!

159 Posted on 12/10/2000 23:29:52 PST by philman_36 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | Top | Last ] To: Search4Truth

bump

160 Posted on 12/11/2000 06:34:43 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Get the US out of the UN. (bump)

161 Posted on 12/11/2000 06:42:17 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: B4Ranch

bump, I am going to keep bumping this article until I get callouses. Uncle Bill sure did a GREAT JOB !

AMEN and THANK YOU!

162 Posted on 12/11/2000 07:45:46 PST by marianna [ Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | Top | Last ] To: Osama

>A pre-tribulation rapture is so much more palatable.<

More wishful thinking -- palatable but not Biblical.

163 Posted on 12/11/2000 07:49:47 PST by marianna [ Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | Top | Last ] To: The Real Deal, Vetwife

MORTON'S PREDICTION and actual request of Klinton to become KING of America.Scroll down to "OCTOBER, 2000: THE WALL ".

164 Posted on 12/11/2000 08:08:51 PST by It'salmosttolate [ Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you for this post.

I saw a freeper interviewed on C-span this morning. The jounalist asked What is Freerepublic.com? His answer was eloquent I'm paraphrasing but he said it was a conservative forum where articles from around the country and the web were posted and critiqued, exposing where a reporter got his facts wrong or media bias was observed.

This will likely lead to more interest here at freerepublic. God Bless all my fellow freepers. Eagles Up!

165 Posted on 12/11/2000 08:26:38 PST by arepublicifyoucankeepit [ Reply | Private Reply | To 163 | Top | Last ] To: Sandy

Thanks for the confirmation, Sandy, re: the comparison of the Socialist Party & the FDR, Dem. Party agenda & achievements..

166 Posted on 12/11/2000 08:55:25 PST by FReethesheeples [ Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | Top | Last ] To: Osama

Right on! In the event of Rapture - you can have this PC!

Great to have located some kindred souls on FReep. The CFR and company can hatch thier little plans - but God has THE plan. Amen.

167 Posted on 12/11/2000 09:04:56 PST by Psalm 73 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | Top | Last ] To: arepublicifyoucankeepit

Eagles Up !

bump

168 Posted on 12/11/2000 09:42:46 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | Top | Last ] To: Psalm 73

another bump

169 Posted on 12/11/2000 19:50:06 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

Here's another site you may want to visit, but be prepared to stay awhile! A vast compilation.

http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/

DE OPPRESSO LIBER

170 Posted on 12/11/2000 22:40:04 PST by compuguru [ Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bill, every bit of this is true, but watch it, you are gonna get flamed hard for this. Personally I think it deserves a big BUMP

171 Posted on 12/11/2000 22:45:48 PST by DaiHuy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: DaiHuy

My feeling exactly !

172 Posted on 12/12/2000 07:32:09 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | Top | Last ] To: compuguru

I certainly was amazed at the quantity of information at your site. bump

173 Posted on 12/12/2000 17:39:48 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | Top | Last ] To: compuguru

Thank you so much for the url!!! I'll go and check it out!

174 Posted on 12/13/2000 21:59:27 PST by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

What can we do?

1) Invite the Lord into your life.

I'm glad this one came with instructions.

With this understanding, I will pray for a candidate for office that follows the instructions.

175 Posted on 12/17/2000 16:18:21 PST by Keyesertarian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Situations certainly appears to be overwhelmingly in the favor of the New World Order. You alluded to another Force in Europe that also wants to have a NWO.

Well now we have China saying they want to be 'head' of the NWO.

One way or another there is a dictator who is planning our slavery right now. He is also planning to kill his competitors. So, I guess the slaves get to live.

Seriously, there have never been times like these. It is astounding to me how consumed with evil one must be to put Socialism in place world wide, as long as your family owns everything.

176 Posted on 12/28/2000 21:51:55 PST by Slingshot [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Keyesertarian

You sure can pick the Goodnight Stories, Keyesertarian.

I don't think I want to go to bed just yet ...

177 Posted on 01/10/2001 20:57:49 PST by Askel5 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 175 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bump for reading later!

178 Posted on 01/22/2001 13:08:16 PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I bookmarked this a long time ago, and finally got around to reading it. It didn't make any sense to me until my daughter walked by and took my tin-foil hat away. Now it is entirely logical.LOL

Seriously, any thought on how these events fit into the fact of Britain selling its stores of precious metals for the last few years, and the now swift formation of a true Euro dynasty?

179 Posted on 02/03/2001 16:43:23 PST by jeremiah [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Anochka, Askel5, Michael Rivero

SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE On September 30, 1941, before the same Committee, Governor Eccles was asked by Representative Patman: "How did you get the money to buy those two billion dollars worth of Government securities in 1933?

ECCLES: We created it.

MR. PATMAN: Out of what?

ECCLES: Out of the right to issue credit money.

MR. PATMAN: And there is nothing behind it, is there, except our Government’s credit?

ECCLES: That is what our money system is. If there were no debts in our money system, there wouldn’t be any money."

On June 17, 1942, Governor Eccles was interrogated by Mr. Dewey.

ECCLES: "I mean the Federal Reserve, when it carries out an open market operation, that is, if it purchases Government securities in the 167 open market, it puts new money into the hands of the banks which creates idle deposits.

DEWEY: There are no excess reserves to use for this purpose?

ECCLES: Whenever the Federal Reserve System buys Government securities in the open market, or buys them direct from the Treasury, either one, that is what it does.

DEWEY: What are you going to use to buy them with? You are going to create credit?

ECCLES: That is all we have ever done. That is the way the Federal Reserve System operates.

The Federal Reserve System creates money. It is a bank of issue."

At the House Hearing of 1947, Mr. Kolburn asked Mr. Eccles:

"What do you mean by monetization of the public debt?

ECCLES: I mean the bank creating money by the purchase of Government securities. All is created by debt--either private or public debt.

FLETCHER: Chairman Eccles, when do you think there is a possibility of returning to a free and open market, instead of this pegged and artificially controlled financial market we now have?

ECCLES: Never. Not in your lifetime or mine."

180 Posted on 03/23/2001 00:55:22 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 177 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill ... bttt

181 Posted on 03/25/2001 23:58:11 PST by Askel5 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 180 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I agree with your post. You have done very well. I found one minor technical error. The Public Law 87-297 you mentioned is no longer on the books. It was repealed by Pub. L. 105-277, div. G, subdiv. A, title XII, Sec. 1222, Oct. 21, 1998, 112 Stat. 2681-768 (according to FindLaw).

182 Posted on 03/27/2001 08:51:32 PST by tuscanycircle (wayne@tuscanycircle.net) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

BTTT

183 Posted on 04/23/2001 04:16:15 PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bookmark-reviewing bump

184 Posted on 05/02/2001 07:44:48 PDT by patricktschetter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

Timely bump.

185 Posted on 05/06/2001 09:53:20 PDT by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 183 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Never overlook the fact that plain old bungling can cause a people to arrive at zero. Bungling can be so bad it can appear to be malice. In general a great people starts out with great leaders and ends up with Bill Clinton types. Our people are unable to excrete; whether criminals or aliens etc. et al.

186 Posted on 05/06/2001 10:02:58 PDT by HENRYADAMS [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

All of this seems to place the "blame" on federal control of wealth, and not on the problems caused by the obscenely wealthy--the historical reality is not that federal institutions regulate wealth, but that wealth profoundly influences federal law. The problems of 19th and 20th century American politics and economy were in large part generated by the manipulations of the wealthy--their influence on governement. Does anyone think that by lessening gov't regs on, say, monopolies, we're going to nbe somehow freer? If so, I've got some nice bottom land to sell you.

187 Posted on 05/16/2001 07:17:53 PDT by TonyKu (akubiak1@tampabay.rr.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

WHAT CAN THE PEOPLE AS A UNIT DO TO EXPOSE THE THE TRIATERAL COMMISION TO THE WORLD????? HOW CAN WE AUDIT THE FDR? CAN REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY (MONETARY) CREATE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT WITHIN AMERICA? CAN AN INDEPENDANT PARTY THEN BE FORMED AGINST REPULIC/DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHAT ATE THE RISKS? CAN ANOTHER SECRET SOCIETY BE FORMED AGAINST THE COMMISION? HOW CAN WE SNAP THE WORLD OUT OF TOTAL IGNORANCE? WHAT ORGANIZATION CAN WE SEEK ALLIANCE FROM?

188 Posted on 10/02/2001 23:37:18 PDT by armegeddon [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

I cry from what you have written, because I have feel these things to be true.

Calm friend. The end is already written.

Good wins.

189 Posted on 10/28/2001 21:57:57 PST by DAnconia55 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Sadly, all the sleepwalkers who need to read this post, wont. Half of them are at the game, the other half are at the mall.

We should be allowed the peace to be at the game or the mall... but Evil exists.

Our people have become simpletons. Without digressing too far, Television is man's most evil invention.

190 Posted on 10/28/2001 22:02:29 PST by DAnconia55 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

I'll have no choice, and neither will you. But then, I'm not afraid to die. My future in the hereafter is decided upon. How about yours? (If you're not a Christian, you don't have to worry about the cattle car!)

I've scrolled through all of the posts above, reading some and skimming others, but of all the posts above, this one had the most impact. This is the one that fed the fires of my vengeance the most.

Since pretty much day one I've heard this stuff, and for the life of me I cannot understand why it is that so many would knowingly sit on their hands, doing little or nothing, and all the while saying "it just had to be." That's the thing that gets me the most. To me that is one of the most selfish attitudes one could ever adopt, that the beast just had to be.

** NEWSFLASH ** IT DIDN'T!!

No, rather it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. So many just sat and watched, over and over telling themselves how powerless they were. Well guess what? Now it really is true. Now the government has power that is unimaginable. Why? Because persons such as yourself sat there and watched it happen, for years and years and years.

Tell me something. Are you living in the woods somewhere and without an address? Why not? You and your kind (Christians) should be swarming over this country, living completely separate. You should have several states all to yourselves. But that is not the case is it? No, instead it is very much the opposite. Who built the beast, this infernal menace the Christians have been railing against but haven't been doing squat to stop? Christians, that's who. Find me Congressmen, Presidents, heads of whatever convoluted branch of government it is, and then you show me that they are Satanists. Go ahead and find them. You won't find them. Why? Because no one would ever ever (said twice on purpose) claim themselves to be a Satanist AND also expect to carry any clout whatsoever in government. Now isn't that odd? What is it that is said at the end of all the speeches? Is it not "and God bless the United States of America"? So you tell me who's been calling the shots and who hasn't. It sure wasn't the Satanists, the folks who were supposed to be bringing this beast upon Mankind.

Come to think of it, how many Satanic churches do you pass in your travels? I don't know about you or your circles, but as for me and my circles, I see none, not a single Satanic church. Odd isn't it? But yet, in any given town there are at least three Christian churches. You folks have so many churches it isn't funny. But do these churches rail against a runaway government? What, and lose their tax-free status? (In other words, they're playing along with the IRS, not fighting it. Yeah, those tithes are tax deductable. ...Hint: You folks should've told the IRS to get out of your church!! Also, if you'd have done that you might have happened to see me actually walking through your door, because then I'd be interested.)

So you keep these things in mind when both you AND I are on our way to the cattle cars, ok? You'll be going praising your faith all the way. I'll be going right along side but cursing you and the rest of you cowards with every step I take. This stuff didn't have to happen. But you folks and your high and mighty "we're right 'cause we're saved" attitudes, your minds set on Heaven and your rewards and your mansions and your golden streets, you folks went right along every step of the way when you should've been fighting. The idea of actually fighting back against what you saw, well, that just wouldn't do. I mean what? Are you going to go live in a cardboard box because you refused to bow to the king? No, instead you just pointed your fingers (speaking to you Christians as a whole) saying we (all the infidels such as myself) are all doomed, but then you went right back and continued building the very beast you claim to abhor. Who can and will make war with the beast? Certainly not the Christians. After all, if they'd have actually fought back, who would they have to point at to say "be saved! Judgement day comes!" No, they needed an enemy. But actually hunt and fight the enemy? Forget it.

I curse you all. It'd be one thing if I saw all you people who call yourselves Christians united in your churches openly and defiantly showing yourselves as opposed to the beast rather than working for the beast everyday. That would've (I admit) had an effect on my attitude, and I likely would not be so angry. If I saw all of you united towards protecting America from this thing that you've been claiming to despise for so many years, then that'd be a different story altogether. But that is NOT what I've seen. No, what I've seen are the very people who should've been at war with the beast at war with everything but. You plaster your morals all over everything. You put your good "God fearing" men into office, rallying around the Republican party (most church-going Christians are Republicans) at every election. You fight tooth and nail against everything (abortion??? the government should've never had any such OPPORTUNITY to even contemplate any such legislation!!) but what really matters, the very thing that you are now throwing up your hands about. You people make me sick. I look around me and I see many things I despise, but you know what? I can't do squat about it. Why? Because the Christians dropped the ball way back when.

If all the Christians would've just fought back as opposed to preaching trying to save my soul. Look at those claiming to be Christians out there, and you will see that for the most part they all claim to be freedom lovers and they claim to be all about defending America. I look at them and laugh, but then I get angry. They've been licking the beast's boots for years. Yeah, I may be going to Hell (I am not a Christian), but the thought of spending eternity with folks the likes of you just isn't an option. I couldn't care less about gold streets and rewards and all the other stuff, but I do give a damn about freedom, that thing that you folks allowed to be stolen while you waited to be rescued from the evils of world, the evils that you could've done something about but didn't.

You think about this the next time you drop one of those rotten Federal Reserve Notes into that offering plate. You think about it long and hard. Did you fight? No. Instead you just played right along, blasting the beast and waving Revelations 13 around on Sunday but then patting that very same beast on the back the rest of the week. I curse you all. ...streets of GOLD Pff! ...too bad America doesn't have any any more. But it sure does have a lot of bank paper, bank paper that fills those offering plates all across America every Sunday, bank paper that builds yet another church every time one turns around, bank paper that Christians should've burned the minute it crossed the threshold of their churches on day one.

Ok, I'm done now.

191 Posted on 10/28/2001 23:53:48 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Ok, I'm done now.

Actually I'm not quite. Tell me something all you Christians. Do the words "Jesus," "whip," "temple," and "money changers" ring any bells? If you ask me, you Christians would just crucify Jesus all over again, you bunch of tax-exempt IRS worshippers. Tithe, it's tax free!

I curse you all.

192 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:03:52 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

It reads like a threat ?

193 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:08:48 PST by WileyCoyote22 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Ok, I'm done now.

We have the guns.

194 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:14:40 PST by WileyCoyote22 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Unfortunately, as a Christian, I must admit your right.

I find it very difficult to attach myself to any Congregation for these very truths. I was part of a Christian Intelligence Group in So. California, and we attempted to educate so-called Christian leaders in that area. We usually got 1 of 3 responses from these shepherds:

1. They rolled their eyes like we had just announced that aliens had landed.

2. They reminded us that we would all be out of this World soon. (Cult of the Rapture, misinterpreted Scripture)

3. That due to separation of Church and State their hands were tied. It was all to much for them anyway.

I think it is lost in our history, that it was Christian leaders that were advocating resisting the English tyranny that the Colonists were facing (Not even close to the Tyranny that we are under now).

Most Americans are totally ignorant of the fact that "The shot heard round the World" at Concord-Lexington was fired by a Citizen Militia headed up by the local Pastor, and that the conflist was precipitated by the RedCoats marching to seize their ball & powder (firearms for the ill-informed).

195 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:31:56 PST by TaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 192 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Who built the beast, this infernal menace the Christians have been railing against but haven't been doing squat to stop? Christians, that's who. Find me Congressmen, Presidents, heads of whatever convoluted branch of government it is, and then you show me that they are Satanists. Go ahead and find them. You won't find them. Why? Because no one would ever ever (said twice on purpose) claim themselves to be a Satanist AND also expect to carry any clout whatsoever in government.

They don't admit it, because they are liars. I assure you , they worship the god of this world. They don't like to use the name Satan though. They worship Lucifer, a god of light and knowledge. They hold the True G_d, the great 'I Am', of the old Testament, in contempt. They are very happy that the likes of you think that they are Christians. You are long on words and short on knowledge. You have much to learn.

Novus Ordo Seclorum OUR ORIGINAL AMERICAN MASONIC FOREFATHERS CONTINUALLY DEDICATED AMERICA TO SATAN! THE NWO AND WASHINGTON DC AL GORE, THE UNITED NATIONS, AND THE CULT OF GAIA Aquarian Conspiracy - Fact or Fiction? CHILD ABUSE AT THE PRESIDIO Protestors Return to Bohemian Grove Sun Myung Moon and George Bush Massachusetts Freemasons present CHIP (Child Identification Program) THE ADVANCE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER The First Degree of Freemasonry Watch Cecil John Rhodes LUCIFER’S NETWORK The Mysteries New World Order Secret Societies

196 Posted on 10/29/2001 13:19:40 PST by Zadokite [ Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | Top | Last ] To: Zadokite

You have much to learn.

Of that I have no doubt, but I can say quite firmly that there is a big difference between teaching people about the enemy that's coming over the hill and actually uniting and fighting that enemy, literally chasing that enemy back to the other side of the hill and then posting a guard, a watch, so that that enemy never has a chance of getting through again, EVEN IF A BOOK SAYS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT APPEAR OTHERWISE.

From day one Christians should have been constantly searching for the beast, constantly on their guard making sure that it does not enter the camp on their watch, running it off of the steps of their churches and their homes. But instead, they've had their eyes to the sky, waiting for their rescue, warning others of the evil that must surely come to pass. Meanwhile, they haven't been watching their feet slowly and surely being wrapped in chains. It really doesn't take an Einstein to hear "that no one may buy or sell save he that hath the mark" and then think, "must be a global economics thing! Gotta watch the economics! Gotta keep money unbridled!" But did they do that? No. Instead they just went along, looking to the Heavens for their redemption, while the beast walked right up to them and turned them into lunch.

Think about this. Do you really believe it was God's intention in giving you life to have you bringing people to God (like God needed the help) while all the while watching this beast eat you alive? Do you really think that that's what it's all about? Well if you take a step back and take a look at the big picture, that's exactly the Christians' belief. They believe that there is no way that they can ever win, not here at least. Why? Because it says that in the Bible. It says that they can't win here, and that not winning here is winning there, in the city where the streets are paved with gold. Gold??? Pardon me, but isn't gold a man's-values thing? Isn't it man that considers gold to be valuable? Hmm? Why would the Creator make golden streets and rewards and mansions as an incentive? In my opinion, the Creator never did any such thing. Rather, man a very long time ago did that. Man wanted gold. Man wanted mansions. Man wanted rewards. In short, in the beginning man wrote a book called the Bible, and God had nothing to do with it. Ever since then man has used the Bible to man's advantage to keep Christians looking to the sky while they built the beast, all the while looking for their escape from the very beast they built. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It says such-n-such is going to happen, so there's nothing that can be done to prevent it. What a crock! Sure it is coming true by the day, but it doesn't have to.

And yes, I realize that the Bible says no one is to change anything. But think about it. What better way is there to ensure that everything stays on course? Isn't it said that if you always do what you've always done, then you always get what you've always got? Who would dare say that the Bible itself caused these things to come about? Who would dare utter such blasphemy? And so it was that man learned how to control man. All the world is doomed, and there's nothing you can do about it but worship God (never thinking about what God's real design might have been) and wait for your rescue. So just go along with whatever happens as it was always meant to be. Bologna!

197 Posted on 10/29/2001 22:25:07 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 196 | Top | Last ] To: alien2; Zadokite

"Bologna."

Baloney bump.

198 Posted on 10/29/2001 22:43:03 PST by headsonpikes [ Reply | Private Reply | To 197 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah.

The Bible doesn't say what you think it does. You might try reading it.

Heaven does not have streets of gold.

Think about this. Bump me when you read the sixteen links I posted, and you want to learn more about the nature of the beast.

199 Posted on 10/29/2001 23:18:43 PST by Zadokite [ Reply | Private Reply | To 197 | Top | Last ] To: Zadokite

Now the question is do I take the time to break out the concordance and lay out my argument, scripture by scripture, or do I just leave things where they are? Based on past experience (not necessarily on you in particular,) I will just say I will ponder the question. Does resolution really matter at this time? That is the overall question here. Frankly, at the moment, I'm leaning towards just going about my business, but to give you the benefit of the doubt, I'll at least ponder over doing the above mentioned.

200 Posted on 10/31/2001 00:02:49 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 199 | Top | Last ] To: classygreeneyedblonde

Happy Halloween! A year late, but better late than never. Don't get too tangled little fly. The more you thrash about the worse it gets.

201 Posted on 11/04/2001 01:08:39 PST by philman_36 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 200 | Top | Last ] To: Zadokite

Thanks for the links and the re-affirmation. I AM is still known as the Truth to many.

Peace to you and yours in these troubled times.

202 Posted on 11/04/2001 01:30:53 PST by hogwaller [ Reply | Private Reply | To 196 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bump.

203 Posted on 11/29/2001 19:14:03 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: *Funny_Money; *Globaloney; *Communist Subversion

bump

204 Posted on 12/14/2001 01:40:24 PST by Zadokite [ Reply | Private Reply | To 203 | Top | Last ]

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[Hank Rearden]

I'm speechless, so I'll quote Frank Barone:

"Holy Crap!"

[TheSpottedOwl]

There's a blast from the past. I was up late, but too tired to reply. Thanks for posting this. My mom used to talk about those issues when I was a kid, and it looks like she and her books were right.

When they pull the rug out from under us, this country will probably sink as fast as a rock :(