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Days may be numbered for problem sea lions
KATU 2 ^ | April 3, 2006 | Brian Barker

Posted on 04/08/2006 8:47:54 PM PDT by george76

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To: george76
I grew up in sea lion country and back in the day the fishing fleet kept their numbers in check. The trawlers and the gill netters before them, when molested by sea lions, would just shoot them. Sea lions will gravitate to and multiply around marinas and concentrations of salmon that exist because of human activity, for the handouts and easy pickings. If the fishery and the sea lions are to survive this can not be allowed. Sea lions are not in any danger but they will be if allowed to multiply to the point they deplete the salmon fishery.

Right or wrong, we who have dominion over all the creatures of the earth are at a point where things like hydro projects and commercial fisheries are vital parts of our societal fabric, and sea lions are very much less so (though my old friends who make their living running the Sea Lion Caves tourist attraction on the Oregon coast may disagree).
121 posted on 04/09/2006 4:58:06 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: kinoxi

Read my post 121 above.


122 posted on 04/09/2006 5:03:20 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places

Many of the liberals think that we can go back to the Lewis and Clark days.

We are here now. 2006...It is what is it.

Destroying the coastal communities with working families with mortgages on their boats and on their homes is not the answer.

Slowing down the PETA and Sierra Club lawyers who shop for the weak, emotional Judges is the first step.

The second step is to get scientists to have a bigger vote on the scientific decisions.

Protecting a few seal lions is nuts. Blaming family fishermen is nuts.

It the regulators would manage the sea lions, the salmon population will be fine.


123 posted on 04/09/2006 5:50:11 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: kinoxi
You a city boy?
Or maybe from Connecticut. That's what I'm thinking.
124 posted on 04/09/2006 6:51:57 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: george76
Sea lions are OK. It's the badgers...Let's kill off all the badgers...We don't need no stinkin' badgers...
125 posted on 04/09/2006 7:43:27 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: george76

The fact that we can buy endangered salmon in a can turns the ESA on it's head. If it's really endangered, then there should be no fishing, no boating, no raft trips. These groups get a pass. Instead, it's no logging, no grazing, no farming - and soon, no electrical generation. Crazy....


126 posted on 04/09/2006 9:01:19 PM PDT by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: george76

Send our buddy C-404 to a zoo. Problem solved!


127 posted on 04/10/2006 3:10:44 PM PDT by RKB-AFG (We welcome that debate on our side. We'll clean your clock!)
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To: forester

"and soon, no electrical generation. Crazy...."

We could go back to reading by light produced from whale oil lamps.../s


128 posted on 04/10/2006 3:29:58 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: headstamp

LOL!


129 posted on 04/10/2006 4:31:06 PM PDT by Robertsll
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To: philo

I know. This is a late night comedy news story, if I ever saw one.


130 posted on 04/10/2006 4:33:40 PM PDT by Robertsll
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To: george76

"Salmon, you see a meal, we see voters." Register them and they'll vote Democrat every election. ;)


131 posted on 04/10/2006 4:36:24 PM PDT by Robertsll
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To: Robertsll

"Eskimos and Native Americans are allowed to hunt them for food, clothing, and traditional arts."


Then simply hire an Eskimo or a Native American to shoot them. They can, in turn, make them into radial tires or whatever. Problem solved.


132 posted on 04/10/2006 4:54:06 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: spectr17

When ya get finished at Bonneville, there's a healthy population down south. We're always getting closures at a local beach for high levels of fecal coliform bacteria, and everyone just assumes it's from people...wrong. It's from all of the sea lions out on Squaw Island(or whatever it is they changed the name to).


133 posted on 04/20/2006 10:54:56 AM PDT by gundog
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To: Mears

And those are pictures of the cozy, loveable California sea lion. Take a gander at some Steller's sea lions some day. HUGE bruisers.


134 posted on 04/20/2006 10:57:18 AM PDT by gundog
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To: fish hawk

Hi Fish Hawk,
I thought there was an exception for Tribal Members to take sea lions.

What was the reasoning from the feds?

Here is the text from the MMPA.

The MMPA established a moratorium on the taking and importation of marine mammals and marine mammal products, except: (6) if the marine mammal was taken by an Indian, Aleut, or Eskimo for subsistence purposes or for purposes of creating and selling authentic native articles of handicrafts and clothing.


135 posted on 03/26/2008 1:13:36 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: kennyboy509
We got our fishing rights back many years ago the the Sea Lion was not part of that deal. Now we would have to go through the whole process again to get them back. My tribe ate Sea Lions for centuries but that does not matter to the envios.
136 posted on 03/26/2008 1:20:57 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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