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To: sinkspur; Wristpin

The statement that pits were bred specifically to kill other dogs is a lie. A bold face lie. Emotionalism has nothing to do with anything. These dogs were ORIGINALLY bred to attack bulls, bears and other large animals. Not a damned thing in that article of "history" stating they were bred specifically to kill other dogs. If your comprehension was as good as your rhetoric, you would see further in the article PEOPLE decided to take advantage of the dog's traits and began fighting them. From the beginning of this breed, it has been the HUMANS, not the dogs, that have exploited the strengths of this damned fine breed. Even the ASPCA notes the problem lies with "uncaring and unscrupulous breeders". Tell the truth. You've bought the MSM BS hook line and sinker, Sink. I would bet a fortune the majority of the dogs that attack people or other animals are owned by irresponsible people or are not even full blooded pit bulls but rather some mix (which it is well documented many mixes are branded as pits and aren't).


152 posted on 04/12/2006 2:48:18 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore
You believe whatever you want about pits. I've seen at least two of these dogs go off. One attacked my wife and three dogs by scaling a seven foot fence, the other mauled one of my cats, forcing me to have to put her down One of the sweetest cats I've ever owned.

Their owners were crushed, and said what every pit owner always says "He's never done anything like that before."

I want no part of pits and it's why I carry a pistol with me when I walk my dogs now.

154 posted on 04/12/2006 3:12:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: PleaseNoMore

You should really know what you own....The "Pit" is in the name for a reason

In 1835, a law was set in motion that would make the sport of baiting illegal, and over the next few years, the activity eventually died down upon enforcement of the law. The people turned to another blood sport--that of dog fighting, and of course people looked to the bulldog as the likely choice for use in the fights. Selective breeding produced a bulldog with heightened dog-aggression, smaller size, and greater agility for performance in a pit that was decidedly smaller than the large areas that baits were typically held in. Hardy, scrappy sporting terriers were crossed into some of the fighting bulldogs to further enhance these traits. The crosses were called bull-and-terriers, half-and-halfs, and pit terriers. It is considered general knowledge that these crosses were the first Pit Bulls, however there is some speculation as to whether or not the history of these crosses is that of our Pit Bulls, or rather a history "borrowed" from the Bull Terrier, which is a documented bulldog/terrier fighting dog cross. Some students of Pit Bull history believe that the Pit Bull is practically a living replica of the old-time bulldog, and that during this time the bulldog was refined as a fighting dog ‘as is’, without any crossbreeding. The question presented is this: why would the devotees of the already extremely game bulldog dilute the blood of the perfect fighting dog with non-game terriers? The typical argument is that the terrier blood increased agility and decreased size. However, the jobs the bulldog was typically required to perform would have demanded agility and the ability to avoid the antics of an enraged bull. As already pointed out, bulldogs came in a variety of sizes and shapes, so breeding down the size to be more compatible with the pit would not have been a difficult task, even without looking outside the gene pool. Examining works of art from all points in history, one will discover dogs that look remarkably similar to today's Pit Bull. It is the opinion of the author, however, that, while the APBT is probably made up mostly of old bulldog blood, at least some terrier blood *was* indeed introduced, if only by virtue of the fact that quite a bit of cross-breeding went on among the gamedog fanciers of the time who were not so much interested in purebred dogs as they were in dogs with fighting ability, and would therefore breed accordingly to dogs that were game, regardless of pedigree.

The breed known as the American Pit Bull Terrier was selectively bred specifically with the idea of it becoming the ultimate canine gladiator. But by virtue of the fact that so much of the breed was made up of versatile bulldog blood, the breed also proved adept at a number of non-fighting activities, including those which the bulldog had been used for. Also, the traits (specifically gameness) bred for in pit dogs were surprisingly relevent in other arenas. Gameness is defined as the willingness to see a task through to its end, even under penalty of serious injury or death. Gameness was the trait most cherished in a fighting dog for obvious reasons, however this same trait proved useful in other areas--a dog who had the tenacity to hold a wild bull or boar, steadfastness to protect his master's home and property, and extreme tolerance for pain which made for a very stable dog less likely to bite out of fear or pain was terribly useful in rural old England. So while a core group of fanciers focused on the fighting uses of the breed, and bred with the pit in mind, still others kept dogs for bulldoggy tasks.

http://www.realpitbull.com/history.html


156 posted on 04/12/2006 3:52:24 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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