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>>For Japan. The US release date is unchanged.

No.. Sony was all over the press saying spring 2006 for the US. Now they *may* have been speaking out of the both sides of their mouth and actually talking about Japan, but the impression here in the media was spring 2006 for the US.

>>Given that we don't know what the final price will be (I don't care what Sony Europe is charging), that's a presumptious statement on your part.

True, but it's based on industry estimates on how much the units are going to cost Sony just to produce the PS3. Even taking a loss the PS3 is going to be highly priced. My guess is $400...

>>No, it isn't, given that most of the games will be on the PS3. Regardless of whether or not you can output in HD or not, the fact of the matter remains that the PS3 will have the games most people care about: Gran Turismo,...that will be PS3-exclusive: Wild ARMs 5, Dragon Quest IX, Suikoden VI, etc.

You have a point that people will want the new versions of old games, but they aren't going to be any better than 360 games from a technical viewpoint. The Sony really can't outclass the 360 at 720p.. The PS3 shines at 1080p, where the 360 can't go.

And compared to a PS2 or Xbox -- at best you'll get a game with bigger and more characters, but you really won't see what the ps3 can do with 720p. At 1080p, the PS3 rocks -- no doubt about it. But people are not gonna be happy when they take it home after seeing what it can do on a 1080p and then watching it on an analog or 720p TV. It won't look near the same as the store.

Here is an example. Play Doom 3 (or whatever game) at 1920x1024 and then at 1300x700. A noticible diffence in image quality. Most people will see PS3 screens at 1300x700, and it won't look the same as the 1900x1024 screen..(forgive the resolution inaccuracies here)

The reason the 360 games don't look as good as the PS3 games has everything to do with the difference in resolution between 720p and 1080p. Display a ps3 image in 720p, and it will look like a 360 game.

The PS3 is too early -- not enough It's like buying a lamborghini but being forced to drive it in school zones at 35mph. It doesn't make sense.

Were 1080p everywhere, then you could see what the sony can do. But right now, it's just going to look like an expensive xbox 360.

Sony was all over the press saying spring 2006 for the US.

They never said "for the US." Whenever they were asked about a release date, they said "Spring 2006." They didn't qualify which region it was coming out in. It was crappy marketing speak, but marketing speak all the same. The thing is late in Japan, on time here, early for Europe.

True, but it's based on industry estimates on how much the units are going to cost Sony just to produce the PS3.

I don't care what financial analysts say or think. We do not know how much the PS3 will cost here--and we won't until Sony announces a price, probably at E3. My money is on $399.

You have a point that people will want the new versions of old games, but they aren't going to be any better than 360 games from a technical viewpoint.

It's interesting that you can make these statements, given that we don't have any PS3s to compare to Xbox360s. The few realtime PS3 demos we have--Metal Gear Solid 4, the Final Fantasy 7 tech demo--look noticably better than Xbox360 games. As for the "new versions of old games" comment, er... none of the games I listed would be "new versions of old games." Each Dragon Quest is completely different from the previous, for example.

but you really won't see what the ps3 can do with 720p.

Why not? If a developer ships a PS3 game that works at 720p, then we'll see what the PS3 can do at 720p.

At 1080p, the PS3 rocks -- no doubt about it.

Again: HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? I doubt even nvidia knows at this point what can be done with the PS3 at 1080p, and nvidia is making the graphics chipsets for the thing!

The PS3 is too early -- not enough It's like buying a lamborghini but being forced to drive it in school zones at 35mph. It doesn't make sense.

Wait, wait. First you called it the LateStation 3, now it's too early?

This is inane.