[LdSentinal]

Nor from stopping steroids. Also, how much DID he lose? Do you even know?

20+ pounds according to baseball scouts last year and he was much smaller.

We are talking about Bagwell. You have shown no evidence he ever used steroids, yet you have no problem throwing around the accusation.

If that's the case, there's no evidence that Mark McGwuire, Sammy Sosa, Palmeiro, Giambi, Bonds, etc. toom steroids.

[Cyclopean Squid]

I don't know about McGuire and Sosa, but Bonds and Giambi both had Grand Jury testimony that they took steroids leaked, and Palmeiro tested positive. McGuire did have the really awkward testimony before Congress ("I'm here to talk about the future, not the past") and Sosa became horrible overnight.

What you claim is not anything new. There are always rumors about 'roids, and that's to be expected in the age of offense. I really don't know. Bagwell's numbers were huge in the strike-shortened '94 season, especially when you consider that he played in the dead-air Astrodome. There will always be doubts about most power hitters, unfortunately. But the players brought it on themselves.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

" 20+ pounds according to baseball scouts last year and he was much smaller."

Because he stopped using heavy weights. If he had been using steroids, stopped, AND was still working out heavy, he would not have lost the muscle. Muscle doesn't just drop off you when you stop steroids, but it will if you stop using heavy weights. Which is what happened because of his shoulder injury, which has been bothering him for a number of years now.

" If that's the case, there's no evidence that Mark McGwuire, Sammy Sosa, Palmeiro, Giambi, Bonds, etc. toom steroids."

There is no evidence that anybody DIDN'T take steroids. You can't prove a negative. Unless you have any real evidence, staining Bagwell's name by claiming he took steroids is reprehensible.