Posted on 03/23/2006 6:06:18 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
Yeah, I'm glad you place your trust in the pro-choice crowd to spend your money honestly. You condemn people every day for being lying leftists, but then you defend one of the most leftist groups around.
Personally I, like most true conservatives, wouldn't trust them, nor be associated with them. But, you're satisfied with that.
You know, when Microsoft gives money to PP, then funds are freed up elsewhere within that organization. What do you think they do with the extra money they DON'T have to spend on Africa?
I'm beginning to wonder if you think more than five minutes in the future...
That's not anti-Microsoft, which takes precedence.
At least they have some redeeming value, being free condoms for Aids infested Africa. Yet to this day you've not shown a single solitary good reason why we should be giving free supercomputer software to Iran, North Korea, or any other anti-US government, despite your forceful unending support for it.
Sooooo, Linux is supercomputer grade software? So it is more powerful and capable than the offering from M$?
Okay, if you say so.
Of course supercomputers can run Linux, so do MAC's and playstations, and mobile phones and PDA's... Now I would be more concerned with supercomputer HARDWARE going to Iran rather than the software. The hardware is not free, and I don't believe we're giving them any. Of course even if your fantasy world were true, and Linux didn't exist inside the US, it would still exist outside of it, as does high level encryption software (one of the reasons the US dropped its export controls).
What are ya gonna do, start rounding up the intellectuals in the world so they can't invent or create anything not controled by your master and the USGov?
Not very realistic.
Don't know jack about modern supercomputers, do ya pal.
Here's you a crash course, all the Chicom supercomputers run what is basically a free copy of Linux they got from Red Hat, which they promptly renamed "Red Flag".
http://news.com.com/2100-1014-5253873.html
Several of those countries whose imports are limited, such as China and Russia, have sidestepped the regulations by creating their own supercomputers using clusters of hundreds or thousands of less-powerful systems. The Top500 list of supercomputers, released last week, included five homegrown Chinese computers, including one ranked No. 10.
Another lie. China's most famous supercomputer (Dawning 4000A) does not use Red Flag Linux. It uses a Chinese-customized version of Turbolinux. Yes, Turbolinux, the Japanese company, which has been making lots of money in China. To date, I haven't heard of Red Flag on a supercomputer, as the distro just isn't made for that purpose.
BTW, they teamed with AMD on it, and used proprietary Myrinet interconnect technology. An easy way to hurt foreign clusters is to restrict the sales of the interconnects, as without them it's just a bunch of computers that can't communicate well. The OS isn't anywhere near as important.
Apparently neither do you, considering your previous post.
I know, it's the clustering they get from NASA, all for free thanks to the current rules. Why do you back them, again?
You just don't get it, yet again. Beowulf is meant to build supercomputers cheaply, using off the shelf boxes and free software. It's only advantage is that it is low cost, enabling budget-constrained universities and scientists to join the world of supercomputing.
China's military doesn't have to worry about cost, as it has enough money to buy whatever supercomputer it wants.
The software begun by NASA (MPI and PVM) is also only a small part of the software that can be used to run an efficient Beowulf. Software written by others, including (oh my god!) foreigners, is most often used in making a Beowulf these days.
BTW, one of the reasons Linux is so popular for supercomputing is that you can change it to fit your particular supercomputing need. A usual Beowulf requires that you patch some processor, networking and memory functions of the kernel. Try that with Windows.
Without free software, there would be no Beowulf, even for our own universities to use. A consequence of that is that anybody can make one. Of course it'll be pretty slow unless the builder can buy the high-speed interconnect hardware.
Something else to spin your head: the world's leading supercomputing program tweaker, who can make a program several times more efficient on a cluster, isn't American.
So, when are you going to stop using this evil software that gives all our secrets to the Chinese? If your using it at work (which I doubt since you don't know the basic security tools that come with a distro) puts dinner on the table, I can understand. But I think you can afford to avoid it for recreational use on principle.
I've been waiting, but still no apology or retraction for that blatant lie, only an effort to go on a tangent.
You did know the the "No Such Agency" of the US gov has a security enhanced version of Linux, didn't you? Complete with source code, research papers and methodology. And "anyone" can download it.
I suspect they might even run it on some of their supercomputers.
The horror.
You know, with all his complaining; he's actually talking up Linux quite well. I mean it MUST be good if he's so afraid of it. Apparently Linux has qualities that M$ could only wish Winders could do.
Wow, your infatuation with the Chinese is incredible. Of course they have to worry about cost, just as the USSR did, in fact many believe the reason the USSR collapsed was they couldn't afford the cold war. But you'd rather just give tech to the Chinese. And of course the Iranians, Cubans, North Koreans, etc, anyone and everyone.
Of course I know, and it's a complete outrage, and why I am making a point to let others know. What's amazing is that people like you don't see anything wrong with it, and could care less if OBL created his own free version called OBLinux and used it to design nuclear bombs to attack the US with. You could obviously care less, so long as you keep getting those free copies yourself.
Wow, I gotta say, everytime you post, the abilities of Linux keep growing and growing. For instance; I wasn't aware that you could design a nuke using just an OS.
So... if OBL used a Winders machine to design a nuke and attack us, it would be okay? (I'm sure he can afford a copy of Winders - then again maybe he pirated it)
Last time I checked you could use design tools on a Winders machine. I think there's a company called Autodesk that makes a design tool called AutoCAD, runs only on Winders. And I also believe there are mathmatical, and physics tools available for the Winders platform which would help greatly in such a design.
And using the distributed processing model of SETI@Home (now BOINC) he could divvy up his computations on many, many, many Winders machines. BUt that might require connected systems and I'm not sure OBL has the technical expertise to network them properly. Of course he might have a service contract (under a psuedonym of course) with M$ to get help in that area.
Now I hafta go and install that nuke design tool that comes with every copy of Linux (That Linus sure thinks of everything.)... for educational purposes only.
Talk about an outrage...
Attacks on Unpatched IE Flaw EscalateFor all we know OBL is using the flawed software coming our of Redmond for nefarious purposes, and M$ takes their sweet time fixing it. Why does OBL have to mess with Linux when he can use Winders against us.More than 200 Web sites -- many of them belonging to legitimate businesses -- have been hacked and seeded with code that tries to take advantage of a unpatched security hole in Microsoft's Internet Explorer Web browser to install hostile code on Windows computers when users merely visit the sites.....
Obviously not to the point of having to go the Beowulf route, because their fastest one was done with the vendors.
And what's this about my infatuation? You're the one who harps on China all the time. I don't know how many times you've trotted out Red Flag, even on the supercomputer post for which you were factually wrong and failed to apologize for the lie.
They don't have the NASA code, haven't you been reading? It's not a Beowulf. NASA's Beowulf, and the advantages our country gained from it, wouldn't exist if not for free software. Now do you get it?
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