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To: Sopater; All

I most note that the number translated isn't 666, it's 616.


3 posted on 03/01/2006 12:29:12 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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To: Rick_Michael
the number translated isn't 666, it's 616

Maybe, maybe not... I say not very likely.

Irenaeus in the second century, a century before the manuscript that you're probably referring to, already knew of the 616 variation and discounted it as an error:

Such, then, being the state of the case, and this number being found in all the most approved and ancient copies [of the Apocalypse], and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony [to it]; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the beast, [if reckoned] according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to six hundred and sixty and six; that is, the number of tens shall be equal to that of the hundreds, and the number of hundreds equal to that of the units (for that number which [expresses] the digit six being adhered to throughout, indicates the recapitulations of that apostasy, taken in its full extent, which occurred at the beginning, during the intermediate periods, and which shall take place at the end), — I do not know how it is that some have erred following the ordinary mode of speech, and have vitiated the middle number in the name, deducting the amount of fifty from it, so that instead of six decads they will have it that there is but one. [I am inclined to think that this occurred through the fault of the copyists, as is wont to happen, since numbers also are expressed by letters; so that the Greek letter which expresses the number sixty was easily expanded into the letter Iota of the Greeks.] — Adv. haer. 5.30

8 posted on 03/01/2006 12:40:52 PM PST by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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