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The End of the American Way
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Posted on 02/12/2006 3:54:56 PM PST by Calpernia

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To: Calpernia
Okay, I'm sorry if I 'skimmed.' It's just that whenever I see the standard conspiracy script pop up somewhere, I'm already pre-disposed to think the Masons are going to take another hit. My sincere apologies, Cal.

Best wishes -- Dave

101 posted on 02/13/2006 3:45:49 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Cvengr
"Man doesn't provide for God, but God does provide for man."

True! Thank you! There is nothing He doesn't provide for us. He even provides the designs for us to build a place to dwell.

102 posted on 02/13/2006 3:55:52 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: uglybiker
Image hosted by Photobucket.com ...how would we ever know what the directors of the Masons or the Vatican (very private) are doing? Answer: Only if they tell us, and only if we believe them.

same thing the RATS say about Dubya...

103 posted on 02/13/2006 3:56:16 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: oh8eleven

Let's just say that every day is the same.


104 posted on 02/13/2006 4:09:12 PM PST by Phil Connors
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To: andysandmikesmom
You're welcome and here's even more info, which you should pass along to those who know nothing at all about what they talk about, but still talk. :-)

Adam Weishaupt, who was born in 1748, died in 1830. He was a professor of cannon law, at the University of Ingolstadt, was NOT a Mason, and began his secret society, the Illuminati, in 1776. BTW, The Illuminati was meant to be translated as "THE ENLIGHTENMENT"...and yes, it was supposed to be a concrete form of the Enlightenment Movement!

Weishaupt, as I said, was NOT a Mason, but became one, in Bavaria, in 1777 in order to infiltrate the local organization and to "turn" those men, whom he deemed elite enough, to followers of his. IT DID NOT WORK!

Oh, he did manage to get some followers and with the help of Baron von Knigge and a nobody book seller named Johann Bode, two lodges in Munich and Eichstadt became their stomping grounds...pushing out the Masons, who refused to become part of this other group.

In March of 1785, the elector of Bavaria outlawed The Illuminati, Weishaupt was fired form his professorship, he fled to Gotha. for fear of his life, and NOT ANOTHER REAL, TRUE, FACTUAL WORD has ever been printed about the Illuminati since. Weishaupt died, The Illuminati disappeared from existence, and EVERYTHING else about them, has been pure, unadulterated TINFOIL, since!

This group went out of existence TWO HUNDRED TWENTY YEARS AGO; yet conspiracy devotees, still crank up the name, so that they have a bogeyman to tell tales about and fear!

I hope that this helps. :-)

105 posted on 02/13/2006 5:19:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Eastbound

No problem Eastbound. I used those examples because they were the standard script. I'm just not a writer and have trouble putting info words to explain myself.


106 posted on 02/13/2006 5:37:30 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nopardons

You represent little truth and seek to deceive.
Freemasonry excludes any person who believes in God through faith in Christ from their organization unless they deny Christ. This thread, though, is not directed at FM. The issues at hand is to discuss how elitism might be circumventing Constitutional procedure.

Please respect Calpernia in her attempt to foster a worthwhile discussion.


107 posted on 02/13/2006 7:19:18 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Cvengr

Nopardon's respects me. She just gave me a spanking for the way I went about trying to explain myself.

And she is right because here we are 107 posts later and you are the only one that posted my point of elitism circumventing our government.

If I worded myself better, my point may not have been lost.


108 posted on 02/13/2006 7:26:58 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cvengr
Not only are you a lying sack of excrement, but in case you didn't notice, Calpernia comes from a MASONIC family, was a RAINBOW GIRL, and the last thing she wanted to do, was to ignite a stupid anti-Masonic flame war, with the likes of you, spreading your lies and falsehoods.

Absolutely NOTHING you post about Masons, is the truth, nor in any way factual.

And, FYI...it was also NOT Calpernia's intention to start a damned MARXIST class warfare fight. But, to you, anyone who has a dime more than you, is automatically one of the elite. So, have at that as well and soon you will be beaten bloody; yet again.

109 posted on 02/13/2006 7:30:33 PM PST by nopardons
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It is sad I have problems getting my point across too.

Cause, here this same group that I've been posting about have backdoored their agenda through their monopolities to start tagging people.

Since the elite have the monopolies on business, all they need to do is make a policy mandatory in another country and voula, in order to work at that company here, come get your Tag.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1577276/posts
US group implants electronic tags in workers


110 posted on 02/13/2006 7:30:57 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nopardons

Since the group doesn;t exist, why are you so exasperated by anybody discussing them? Your reaction telegraphs your sincerest thinking.


111 posted on 02/13/2006 7:32:06 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: nopardons

Thanks very much for the additional information...I will pass this along to my husband...as I said, he is retired, but he does meet often with his other retired postal workers, and some of those Illuminati believers are among them...

But they are deeply entrenched in their belief in the Illuminati, so I dont know if this will be enough to quash their belief....but I am sure my hubby will give it a try...

Again, thanks...


112 posted on 02/13/2006 7:36:12 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Cvengr

Because you are changing the topic.

I posted my gibberish to discuse THESE elite.

MAURICE STRONG RECENT HISTORY

Behind UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan stands the powerful Canadian multi-billionaire Maurice Strong. The founder of both the World Economic Council and Planetary Citizens, he has served as director of the World Future Society, trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation and Aspen Institute, and a member of the Club of Rome. As head of the Earth Council, he began to prepare an Earth Charter—a global code of conduct based on global values and radical environmental guidelines.

Strong led the 1992 "Earth Summit" in Rio de Janeiro (United Nations Conference on Environment and Development). It produced the controversial Biodiversity Treaty and Agenda 21 — the monstrous plan for reorganizing the world along environmental guidelines. One of his offices is only two blocks away from the White House.

Officially, Strong was "hired" by Annan to "reform" the massive, inefficient, and corrupt UN bureaucracy so that the US Congress would pay its dues. But his leadership brings little comfort to those who remember Strong’s occult and environmental ties, globalist ambitions, and corrupt business practices.

His true plan for UN reform is documented in Our Global Neighborhood, the report of the UN Commission on Global Governance, which Strong helped write. Like Towards a Rapid Reaction Capability for the United Nations, this report calls for a volunteer UN army under UN command, with UN police stationed in every region of the world:

"In many of today’s crises, it is clear than an early intervention could have prevented later negative developments…. This underlines the need for a highly trained UN Volunteer Force that is willing, if necessary, to take combat risks….This would be particularly useful in low-level but dangerous conflicts. Such an international Volunteer Force would be under the exclusive authority of the Security Council." 9

What if the U.S. Congress disagrees with UN decisions. Could it simply press for a U.S. veto on the Security Council? Not if Strong implements his vision of reform. The United States, which is billed 25% of the huge UN budget, would be dismissed from the Security Council:

"We recommend that a new class of ‘standing‘ members be established…. Of these new members, two should be drawn from industrial countries and three from among the larger developing countries. Of the two from industrial countries, presumably one will be from Asia and one from Europe. Of the three from developing countries, we would expect one each to be drawn from Asia, Africa, and Latin America. . . . The new standing members will not possess a veto, and we believe the aim should be for the power of the veto to be phased out. 10


113 posted on 02/13/2006 7:36:16 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nopardons

My statement is a report of direct witness. Love is not provoked.


114 posted on 02/13/2006 7:37:43 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Cvengr
You're the one who is exasperated; not to mention flummoxed.

I merely posted the facts. so that others will now know that what they've been told, is just not true.

OTOH, since YOU believe all of this garbage, be afraid, be VERY afraid, because maybe, just maybe, I'll send my group after yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuu. LOL

115 posted on 02/13/2006 7:41:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: andysandmikesmom
You're very welcome.

I really don't know WHY some adults need such imaginary bogeymen to give themselves the willies, when we have for real, living and breathing enemies to worry about, but some do. *sigh*

116 posted on 02/13/2006 7:43:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I dont know why either...I am with you...there are more than enough real life enemies to worry about, I dont have time to invent them....


117 posted on 02/13/2006 7:46:03 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Cvengr
You can, of course, continue to lie; however, in doing so, you do yourself no good at all.

Jesus didn't come to do away with the Ten Commandments, BTW, so your breaking several of them, continually, isn't going to help you much with GOD.

118 posted on 02/13/2006 7:46:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: andysandmikesmom

Many thanks! :-)


119 posted on 02/13/2006 7:47:30 PM PST by nopardons
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To: andysandmikesmom

If you want any of NoPardon's notes, clip them. I'm going through my articles in another browser. When I find a good one to start with, I'm going to post that and ask the Admin Mod to remove this one.


120 posted on 02/13/2006 7:52:20 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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