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Howie Carr Live Thread: Neil Entwistle Arrested (take poll)
Howie Carr.com ^ | 02/09/06 | raccoonradio

Posted on 02/09/2006 12:45:42 PM PST by raccoonradio

ENTWISTLE The District Attorney's office for Middlesex County says Neil Entwistle murdered his wife and baby and intended to kill himself but chickened out and fled to England.

Do you wish Neil Entwistle had killed himself? Yes No


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: howiecarr; marthacoakley; neilentwistle; wrko
More on the story, including video of the press conference from this morning

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO14112/

1 posted on 02/09/2006 12:45:44 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio; maryz

Howie Carr ping.
Poll so far:

Do you wish Neil Entwistle had killed himself?
Yes 84%
No 16%


2 posted on 02/09/2006 12:46:25 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

>>The gun cabinet was locked, but Neil Entwistle knew where to find a key and had previously fired the same gun with his father in law for target practice, Coakley said.

>>He allegedly took the gun from his father-in-law's collection at some point. After the shooting, that afternoon, Entwistle drove about 50 miles from the couple's rented home in Hopkinton to Carver, where he returned the gun while both his father-in-law and Rachel's mother were at work, Coakley said.

Caller on air now wonders if Tom "Unfortunately" Reilly,
who currently has the job Martha Coakley is running for
(Atty Genrl) might be able to "fix" this case (Mass.
FReepers will remember a recent teens-died-driving-drunk
case...) Will Entwistle wind up in the Martha's Vineyard
jail that looks like a B&B?


3 posted on 02/09/2006 12:54:42 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Why would Tom Reilly fix the case? Does he know the accused?


4 posted on 02/09/2006 12:57:16 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist
Why would Tom Reilly fix the case?

Depends on what's in it for him! ;-)

5 posted on 02/09/2006 1:00:55 PM PST by maryz
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To: theDentist
Yeah, I think the caller was just kidding...

Boston Globe 1/11/06:
>>Attorney General Thomas F. Reilly acknowledged yesterday that he discussed a fatal car accident with a prominent businessman and campaign supporter, but Reilly, a Democratic candidate for governor, strenuously denied that the supporter asked him to intervene in the investigation of the crash that killed two teenage girls.

6 posted on 02/09/2006 1:14:11 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Baynative

Bit of a resemblance! But i don't think there's an Ambrey
Frey out there for Neil.

Extradition Could Take Months (from CBS4Boston.com):

http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/local_story_040152531.html

"...it could take months to get him back from England to face trial in Massachusetts...
He told a judge he would not agree to a voluntary return to the United States. District Judge Timothy Workman did not ask Entwistle to enter a plea, and said a decision on whether he would be handed over to U.S authorities had to be made by April 15 under British law.

"Phillips said an extradition order has to be issued in the courts and there are several stages to the process. It then has to go to the Office of The Home Secretary who will then decide if Entwistle is sent back to Massachusetts. But an appeals process could follow and that could drag the proceedings on for months...

"If convicted, he faces life in prison without parole in Massachusetts."

Note: usually countries in the E.U. won't extradite someone who might have to face the death penalty to their home
country if that country has the death penalty. But Mass.
has no death penalty so maybe they'll allow him to be extradited (even though many US states have it, Mass.
doesn't, which might be good enough for the extradition
to be allowed.)


8 posted on 02/09/2006 1:21:17 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

oops, AMBER Frey


9 posted on 02/09/2006 1:21:37 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Hi Raccoon,

I sent the following to Greta. Not sure if it's nonsensical or not:

Email...

Dear Greta,

It occurred to me that Entwistle may have planned the
"perfect" murder/suicide.

Neil is alive to concoct, in his defense:

'My wife and I were receiving threatening
calls/emails, over some period of time, we freaked
out, financial problems mounting, and we agreed that I
would take not only her life and my life, but also the
life of our baby -- all 3 of us. Too much stress, too
much anxiety. After the killings, I was so
distraught, I had to get out of there.'

This could get interesting.

Best Wishes,

Jeff (Toledo, Ohio)

So, in other words, his wife asked for him to kill her and the baby, before he killed himself.
10 posted on 02/09/2006 1:26:11 PM PST by jdm (Who gets the deer, me or the dog?)
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To: jdm

So Neil just couldn't pull off the suicide part of the murder suicide. Maybe when he gets into jail someone will finish the job for him. (Recently in Mass., convicted killer Joseph
Druce, in for life. was convicted of
killing pedophile priest John Geoghan while in prison.

Since there's no death penalty Geoghan's term went from
"life in prison" to..."life in prison".)


11 posted on 02/09/2006 1:30:25 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

"So Neil just couldn't pull off the suicide part of the murder suicide."

That would be the defense (part of it) I would think. Because really there's nothing else. It's just a theory, of course. If he's found guilty, he has to be locked up forever. Death Penalty if possible (but I don't think there's a DP in Mass.).


12 posted on 02/09/2006 1:33:14 PM PST by jdm (Who gets the deer, me or the dog?)
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To: jdm

>>but I don't think there's a DP in Mass

http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/capital/map/penalty.html

There is someone facing death penalty in Mass, Gary Lee
Sampson, but that was because it fell under a law allowing
the DP when a carjacking is involved.


13 posted on 02/09/2006 1:52:57 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

>> Entwistle’s arrest came after investigators uncovered forensic evidence Tuesday that linked Entwistle to one of the handguns in Matterazzo’s gun collection. Coakley said tests linked the gun to Neil and Rachel, “and we know Rachel had not used that gun.

As Howie just pointed out, what if Neil hadn't returned the gun? Would they have been able to arrest him without that
evidence?


14 posted on 02/09/2006 1:58:19 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Do you wish Neil Entwistle had killed himself?

Absolutely. If he did it before he murdered his wife and child.

Sometimes these murder-suicide types get their sequence confused.

15 posted on 02/09/2006 2:04:02 PM PST by Restorer
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To: raccoonradio
The question should be "Did Neil Entwistle intend to kill himself"?

The answer is "No".

16 posted on 02/09/2006 2:08:36 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Restorer

I always say that when something like this pops up (and it happened also with Jason Robida, the neo-Nazi from New
Bedford): If you're planning a murder-suicide, please
kill yourself _first_ and save the lives of the innocent.


17 posted on 02/10/2006 1:33:26 AM PST by raccoonradio
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