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Steelers ticker-tape parade Tuesday BREAKING NEWS
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 2/6/2006 | The Pittsburgh Tribune Review

Posted on 02/06/2006 8:32:23 AM PST by serendepitylives

Steelers ticker-tape parade Tuesday BREAKING NEWS

By The Tribune-Review Monday, February 6, 2006

Pittsburgh will throw a ticker-tape parade Tuesday morning to celebrate the Steelers' first Super Bowl victory in 26 years. The parade of Steelers players and high school marching bands will set out from Mellon Arena at 11 a.m. and proceed down Centre Avenue. The marchers will turn left on Sixth Avenue, go right on Fifth Avenue, turn left on Liberty Avenue and stop near the Pittsburgh Hilton Hotel near Gateway Center, Downtown, said Public Works Director Guy Costa.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: lynnswann; nfl; rendell; steelers; superbowl; swann; winners
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To: highlander_UW

"Consider: The Seahawks lost 161 yards to penalties when you combine the penalty yards (70) and the plays the flags wiped out (91). By halftime alone, when it trailed 7-3, Seattle had had 73 hard-earned yards and a touchdown eliminated.
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Newsflash-yards gained by holding and pushing off of defenders are not "hard-earned" yards, they are yards gained by cheating. That's why there are penalties associated with yards gained that way.


101 posted on 02/06/2006 1:50:09 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: busstopsindetroit

I will never forget when Troy's interception was overturned in the Indianapolis game. Did he whine and complain? Nope. He listened to the umpire, grabbed his helmet and went back out to the field. None of the people who are complaining about the refs are discussing what you brought out below! How 'bout it, SEAHAWK fans?


102 posted on 02/06/2006 1:51:48 PM PST by merry10
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To: Supernatural

Hugs back. I watched with my dad for many years and am glad to be living where I can enjoy football - PA!. :)


103 posted on 02/06/2006 1:52:57 PM PST by merry10
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To: busstopsindetroit
Newsflash-yards gained by holding and pushing off of defenders are not "hard-earned" yards, they are yards gained by cheating. That's why there are penalties associated with yards gained that way.

You missed the point. Set aside the validity of the calls and one still is left with the fact that there was no equality in the calls. There was no equivalent 161 yards lost that the Steelers had to overcome. Ignore the facts if you wish. The game is over, the Steelers are in the record books as the winners. I hope that if the Seahawks ever win the Super bowl it will be on their own merits and not bad officiating.

104 posted on 02/06/2006 1:55:20 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW

"Set aside the validity of the calls and one still is left with the fact that there was no equality in the calls. There was no equivalent 161 yards lost that the Steelers had to overcome."

Uh, perhaps the Steelers are just a more disciplined team which committed fewer penalties? Since when is there supposed to be "equality in the calls?" Avoiding penalties is part of being a championship caliber football team. The Seahawks were holding all over the place, the refs called it when it affected the outcome of a play, as they SHOULD have.


105 posted on 02/06/2006 1:58:19 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: serendepitylives

Glad I don't have to go downtown tomorrow. The city will be a mess, all tied up.


106 posted on 02/06/2006 2:00:27 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: merry10

To the Seahawks credit, I have not heard any of their players or coaches blame the loss on the officiating.

Whether some bad calls were made is a perfectly valid discussion to have-but the idea that the bad calls were one sided or cause the Seahawks to lose is ridiculous, and so unfair to the Steelers players nad coaches who have played some spectacular football this season. I think it is just a crime that people want to try and tarnish this win for them. The worst kind of poor sportsmanship.


107 posted on 02/06/2006 2:01:39 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: merry10
The Pittsburgh fans whined about it for at least a week and at least one Pittsburgh player said the refs were trying to give the game to the Colts. Not only that, but many Colts' fans on here acknowledged it was a horrible call, which is more than I can say about many Steeler fans in discussing yesterday's game. If any Seahawks players whined and complained on the field yesterday, I didn't see it.
108 posted on 02/06/2006 2:02:32 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: busstopsindetroit
Uh, perhaps the Steelers are just a more disciplined team which committed fewer penalties?

That isn't borne out by the regular season. The Seahawks were one of the two least penalized teams in the league.

Since when is there supposed to be "equality in the calls?"

You don't think the refs should apply the same standards to both teams? No wonder you have no problem with the game. You are, however, in the minority.

Avoiding penalties is part of being a championship caliber football team. The Seahawks were holding all over the place, the refs called it when it affected the outcome of a play, as they SHOULD have.

It's not easy to avoid penalties when the refs are determined to make calls on nonexistent penalties. On the one that eliminated the pass to the 1 yard line the Steelers were offsides prior to the questionable holding call...and neither had a bearing on the actual play...Hasselbeck stepped up into the pocket and threw down field.

We're going to have to agree to disagree. I value honest games, you don't care. Simple as that. My problem is not the outcome but what almost certainly cause the outcome.

109 posted on 02/06/2006 2:10:09 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: MortMan
the gadget pass was a direct result of the (1) bogus holding call that brought the Seahawks back from the 2 yard line and (2) the 15 yard penaly for tackling below the waist.

I think something is wrong with your tv, here allow me...

the gadget pass was a direct result of the (1) bogus holding call that brought the Seahawks back from the 2 yard line Randle El taking the ball on a reverse hand-off and (2) the 15 yard penaly for tackling below the waist Randle El throwing a 43 yard pass which was caught by Hines Ward, the game MVP.

Better?

110 posted on 02/06/2006 2:10:27 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jennyjenny

Being that the NFL came back and said that it was a bad call, what's your logic?


111 posted on 02/06/2006 2:11:15 PM PST by merry10
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To: jennyjenny

Also, recommend you see previous post from busstopsindetroit. He makes excellent points.


112 posted on 02/06/2006 2:12:16 PM PST by merry10
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To: jennyjenny

"The Pittsburgh fans whined about it for at least a week and at least one Pittsburgh player said the refs were trying to give the game to the Colts"

There's a bit of a difference between a ref making a bad call on the field and one looking at a replay tape and chooisng to OVERTURN an obvious interception. That said, I don't think it was an attempt to give the game to the Colts, but it certainly was a giant (NFL admitted) mistake that could have cost the Steelers the game.

The calls in question here are (with the possible exception of the Hasselbeck penalty, which certainly didn't hand the game to the Steelers anyway)legitimate calls-some of them are judgement calls to be sure, but they weren't blatantly wrong and they didn't give the Steelers the game-Seattle's poor play did. There were also bad calls that went against the Steelers as well, but they seem to go unmentioned in most of the media frenzy.


113 posted on 02/06/2006 2:12:30 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: highlander_UW

"The Seahawks were one of the two least penalized teams in the league."

Yeah, and Ben R. Had a 124 post season QB rating-weird things happen in the SB.

"Since when is there supposed to be "equality in the calls?"

You don't think the refs should apply the same standards to both teams? No wonder you have no problem with the game. You are, however, in the minority."

Of course they're supposed to apply the same standards. That doesn't mean each team is going to get the same number of penalties.

" I value honest games, you don't care. Simple as that. My problem is not the outcome but what almost certainly cause the outcome."

Don't tell me what I care about and don't care about. Your problem is you are a sore loser who can't accept that your team choked and you're desperately trying to find someone to blame. You ignore all the mistakes of the Seahawks, you ignore the equally bad calls that didn't go the Steelers way, but hey, if that makes you feel better about your loss, go ahead and wallow in it.

I care about a team that blew away three of the top teams in the NFL being stripped of the recognition it deserves by a bunch of whining crybabies like yourself.

GO STEELERS!!! The new dynasty has begun, get used to it.


114 posted on 02/06/2006 2:19:53 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: merry10
First of all, I was responding to your post about TP's conduct after a bad call and the Seahawk players and fans conduct at what they thought were bad calls. You didn't address my response, but I'll play with you anyway. If the Colts had ended up winning that game, do you really think the NFL would have come out the next day and said that? And, do you agree with the Pittsburgh player who said the refs were trying to give the game to the Colts?

Take your time thinking about this before you respond. I'll wait.

115 posted on 02/06/2006 2:22:01 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: busstopsindetroit
I've acknowledged, as have many others that it was a horrible call. I said it right when it happened and I'm a Colts' fan. There were also calls that were questionable that were against the Colts as well.

I disagree with you that some of the calls yesterday weren't blatantly horrible, but I will say this, it did go both ways, just not equally both ways. Also, this has nothing to do with Pittsburgh's talent. They're a great team. I'm just pissed at the horrible officiating in general. It should be better than what we've been seeing. And your right, the Steelers and their fans should be able to enjoy their win without the officiating clouding things. Unfortunately, the officiating ruined that.

116 posted on 02/06/2006 2:33:05 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: highlander_UW

The Steelers offense played lousy yet they still won the game. 21-10 is not a close game no matter how bad the officiating was.

Hassleback threw 2 potential TD passes out of bounds and overthrew badly on the int. He is a good QB but not great..not even as good as the 23 year old Pittsburgh QB. The tight end dropped numerous big passes (a problem for Seattle for the last several years) and their defense could not get the ball back at the end of the game. Despite bad officiating they had their chances but blew it.


117 posted on 02/06/2006 2:40:14 PM PST by Kokojmudd (Outsource the US Senate to Mexico! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: Kokojmudd
The Steelers offense played lousy yet they still won the game. 21-10 is not a close game no matter how bad the officiating was.

It is when the officials were responsible for at least 11 points of the 11 point difference. Neither offense played up to their best. I think we can agree to that, at least.

Hassleback threw 2 potential TD passes out of bounds and overthrew badly on the int. He is a good QB but not great..not even as good as the 23 year old Pittsburgh QB. The tight end dropped numerous big passes (a problem for Seattle for the last several years) and their defense could not get the ball back at the end of the game. Despite bad officiating they had their chances but blew it.

He did have 2 passes that were very close, but out. And you're right, the TE dropped several passes. The team used to have problems with drops, but they got rid of one of the primary culprits (he's with Minnesota now). The defense lost 3 key starters to injury, which hurt them quite a bit...but the bad officiating very likely changed who won the game.

118 posted on 02/06/2006 2:44:14 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: kevkrom
What about the phantom holding?

There was holding. Watch the original angle, not the replay. The refs may have called the wrong number, but an offensive lineman saved Hasslebeck from becoming a pancake.

What about the no call horse collar?

To be a "horse-collar tackle", the original contact must come from behind and the neck of the jersey must be the first thing grabbed. Neither were true on that tackle.

The "pass interference" call in the endzone was bull. Neither the defender nor receiver did anything to warrant a flag.

The receiver pushed off with his right hand into the defender's chest to aid in changing direction and to create space to catch the ball. That is the definition of offensive pass interference. Doing it right in front of the official just makes it easier to call.

Great explanations. The pass interference whining is the worst. I think the NFL is planning on using that play in their training video since it was the perfect depiction of offensive pass interference.
119 posted on 02/06/2006 2:44:31 PM PST by upier (Stop Child abuse - Teach your children English!)
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To: busstopsindetroit
Don't tell me what I care about and don't care about. Your problem is you are a sore loser who can't accept that your team choked and you're desperately trying to find someone to blame. You ignore all the mistakes of the Seahawks, you ignore the equally bad calls that didn't go the Steelers way, but hey, if that makes you feel better about your loss, go ahead and wallow in it.

LOL. I noticed you had a lot to say about how losers should "lose gracefully". In showing good sportsmanship, there is such a thing as winning gracefully too, ya know?

120 posted on 02/06/2006 2:45:40 PM PST by jennyjenny
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