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9/11 ATTACKS Avoiding the hard questions
Miami Herald ^ | Feb. 01, 2006 | ROBERT STEINBACK

Posted on 02/01/2006 8:42:15 PM PST by Anthem

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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
--I don't think he likes me.

LOL. I don't think about you one way or the other. I'm very familiar with Howlin and _Jim. Kinda fun to watch 'em bluster.

141 posted on 02/01/2006 10:28:57 PM PST by Anthem (One can not lie their way to the truth.)
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To: Anthem
I offer no explanations without evidence. That's why I said, in my initial comment above, that a proper investigation would have to determine opportunity, means, and motive. First things first, clearly identify what happened. The NIST and 9/11 reports did't. The ommissions are well documented, and what's included stretches credulity.

Wow. Thanks. You just told me everything I need to know.

I knew it. "Motive, means, and opportunity". A LIHOP/MIHOP theorist.

Thank you so much. Really.

You should consider using the word "whereas" at every opportunity. It seems to go over really big in those circles.

Let me help you find you way.

Follow the Yellow Brick Road
142 posted on 02/01/2006 10:32:55 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Jotmo
Re: Popular Mechanics link.

When I first saw that it was a link to PM, I thought it was the original WTC explanation article. I see that it is a more recent article regarding the myriad of conspriacy theories that are floating around. I noted that PM is quoting new information that replaces the FEMA information. Also, that they never once addressed Jones' work. It's easy to defeat a straw man, especially with unlimited resources. Jones appears to be a bit more robust.


To all: I'm taking the kid skiing tomorrow, so won't be back until the weekend.
143 posted on 02/01/2006 11:18:06 PM PST by Anthem (One can not lie their way to the truth.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I'm further from being a Democrat than most Republicans are.

--With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.

So you been whippin' Bush much lately?

144 posted on 02/01/2006 11:56:46 PM PST by Anthem (One can not lie their way to the truth.)
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To: Anthem
The center core wasn't capable of standing on its own . . . its stability was based not only on its own strength, but on its connections to the exterior frame.

Think of it like the sides of a truck that strikes a low overpass. The walls seem solid when the trailer is intact, but when a large section of the roof is buckled they suddenly lose their ability to stand up, and they collapse outward when that lateral support is lost.

145 posted on 02/02/2006 3:19:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Anthem

If the top of the structure had been one monolithic element, then that could have been the case. However, the building is not a single mass but a combination of interconnected individual elements. So when one of the structural elements fails and the structure begins to fall, any angular momentum or lateral forces involved in the failure are far exceeded by the simple vertical force of gravity that causes each piece of the building to fall straight downward.


146 posted on 02/02/2006 3:22:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Anthem
No wires in an office building? Remarkable. Jones makes a pretty good case for thermite charges.

Have you ever witnessed what they have to do to bring a large building down with charges? You don't hook them up to the office building wiring. The simple fact that it takes weeks to setup and no one noticed charges next to their desks should be reason enough for you to ignore this nonsense. You do know you are buying into enemy propaganda when you buy into this stuff, right?

147 posted on 02/02/2006 5:50:36 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Anthem

He's a NUCLEAR physics professor! Not a structural engineering professor. He might as well be a baker for all the insight being a nuclear physics professor brings to this case.


148 posted on 02/02/2006 6:00:57 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Anthem

Hope you had a good ski trip!


149 posted on 02/02/2006 6:03:36 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Incorrigible
''I am a professional philosopher"

Alrighty then. You must have the expertise.

Don't bother beating me with that "scholar" label, I am already properly cowed by your status as "philosopher", and will humbly bow to your superior knowledge.

And it is so elementary that I don't think you can find a single physicist who could disagree with the idea that this was a controlled demolition.''

I'm sure you're right. I'm sure you wouldn't find a single engineer either. Someone with your brainpower must certainly be correct about that.

150 posted on 02/02/2006 6:18:27 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: sinkspur
Wayne Madsen

Wayne Madsen spent three days online insisting that President Bush's Thanksgiving trip to Iraq didn't happen when it actually DID happen, but involved waking all the soldiers up in the middle of the night to eat Thanksgiving dinner before breakfast, and then lying about it.

All because of an obvious (to normal people, anyway) typo in the Washington Post.

151 posted on 02/02/2006 6:26:59 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart

Scares me to death that a nutcase like Madsen was actually in the United States intelligence services.


152 posted on 02/02/2006 6:45:57 AM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: bnelson44
Have you ever witnessed what they have to do to bring a large building down with charges?

And I love how they transition that to proof of thermite charges.

One itty-bitty problem, however - you cannot control thermite the way you can control high explosives. Explosives cut beams instantenously. But thermite burns. So you could not precisely control when the thermite would cause a beam to fail the way you can use split-second timing for high explosive charges to cut beams - and even then, a lot of manual cutting of beams is done prior to the implosion to weaken them. No dealing with that fact, either.

So on the one hand, they are saying that the fact that the WTC fell into its footprint is proof of a controlled demolition. But then, when confronted with the lack of wiring to control a controlled demolition, they say that proves thermite was used - but thermite would not be a means to create a controlled demolition. So they contradict themselves. Another WTC theory gets its throat slit by Occam's razor.

But you can't hit these people with facts - they just see that as proof that you're hoodwinked and they have the truth.

153 posted on 02/02/2006 7:41:32 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: Howlin
Parts of building don't just TIP off.

Hey. Didn't you see that part in "Armageddon" where the building is struck by a meteor, and the top fell off. What more evidence do you need?

More science Hollywood style.

154 posted on 02/02/2006 9:40:24 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: dirtboy
Another WTC theory gets its throat slit by Occam's razor.

Nicely played, sir.
155 posted on 02/02/2006 10:17:05 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Anthem
I'm further from being a Democrat than most Republicans are.

Yet, you manfully defend a key component of the LIHOP/MIHOP moonbattery.

Kook on the left, kook on the right. Not much of a difference of late.
156 posted on 02/02/2006 10:20:38 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: sinkspur
Scares me to death that a nutcase like Madsen was actually in the United States intelligence services.

You'd be surprised. I served in the Intelligence Corps of the Army and there were some real weirdos. A whole lot of Dungeons and Dragons playing Wiccans.

157 posted on 02/02/2006 10:37:23 AM PST by jmc813 (John Shadegg for Majority Leader)
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To: Anthem

I just fart at the fire, gets it real hot.

(BTW my tag line is not directed in your general direction)


158 posted on 02/02/2006 7:25:34 PM PST by CJ Wolf (To Zot or Not That is the question.)
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