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AP on Brokeback Mountain (Photo & caption)
AP wirephotos via Yahoo ^ | AP - Tue Jan 31, 9:38 AM ET

Posted on 01/31/2006 9:37:52 AM PST by ElkGroveDan

This undated photo provided by Focus Features, shows actors Heath Ledger, left, and Michelle Williams in a scene from 'Brokeback Mountain.' The cowboy love story led the Academy Awards field Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2006, with eight nominations, among them best picture and honors for actors Ledger, Williams and Jake Gyllenhaal and director Ang Lee. The winners will be announced at the Oscar ceremony on March 5. (AP Photo/ Focus Features/ Kimberly French)


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: assininepress; culturewars; hollyweird; homosexualagenda
According to AP it's a love story and there's a picture of a man and a woman getting married.

Gosh did they leave anything out of that description of the movie?

1 posted on 01/31/2006 9:37:53 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yeah, that picture sure sums it up. (NOT)

They need to just be honest, it's a "queer niche" movie with a little star power, hyped beyond all reason.


2 posted on 01/31/2006 9:39:54 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Looks like a great movie, a real family classic concerning a real man marrying the women he loves and raising his children. Can't wait to go see it....


3 posted on 01/31/2006 9:40:01 AM PST by Always Right
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To: ElkGroveDan
Gosh did they leave anything out of that description of the movie?

Well, yeah...

:)

4 posted on 01/31/2006 9:40:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ElkGroveDan
What I found surprising is that Heath Ledger played one of the manliest characters to appear onscreen in years in .

On second thought, maybe all of the Queen music on the sountrack should have been a clue!

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5 posted on 01/31/2006 9:50:46 AM PST by speed_addiction (And the Lord said, "Who shall I send? Who will stand for us?" Said I, "Here I am...Send me.")
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To: ElkGroveDan

They weren't cowboys! They were sheepboys!!!



Did I get it right?


6 posted on 01/31/2006 9:52:23 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (I'm so fascinating - I have my own group of stalkers hanging on my every word! Jealous?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Yeah, they left this out.picture isn't pretty, be warned
7 posted on 01/31/2006 9:56:25 AM PST by MadCharity (Behavior is a mirror in which every one displays his own image!)
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To: MadCharity


STOP THAT!


8 posted on 01/31/2006 9:58:36 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (I'm so fascinating - I have my own group of stalkers hanging on my every word! Jealous?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Gosh did they leave anything out of that description of the movie?

Where's the pudding?

9 posted on 01/31/2006 10:20:40 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: MadCharity

10 posted on 01/31/2006 12:48:23 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: All
MANY of you are giving false information about the movie.
Some facts about the movie:
They ARE cowboys. They work on ranches and they rodeo. They herd sheep JUST for the summer to make some extra money.
They were NOT married w/children when they first met and became involved.
Only one of the SHEEPHERDERS marriage dissolved.
And you Einstein's DO know that 1/2 of all marriages end in divorce, right?
As stated on another thread on this board....
Women do not find 2 guys having sex "sexy." DUH!
2 guys is not a "turn on" anymore for US than it is for YOU!
THAT is not what TURNS US ON about Brokeback Mountain.
Which one of you geniuses thought that was the case?

The film does NOT have a phony message. It has a very real message.
It in NO WAY (not even a litte TINY bit) glorifies the gay lifestyle.
It simply depicts the agony and heartbreak of loneliness.
I would like to refer this group of nasty people to the following article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11102003/
Come on, have the guts to actually READ this commentary carefully and THINK about seeing Brokeback Mountain for yourself before you unfairly judge it. The commentary is written by a macho straight guy.
See it and THEN come back and let us know if you still feel the same way. If you do, fine.
But get your facts!
I am white, female, straight, middle-aged,married, conservative mother of 5 who thought Breakback Mountain was exceptional....BOTH times I saw it!
There is only ONE God...and YOU'RE not Him!
Only HE will judge us all and we ALL have fallen short.
11 posted on 01/31/2006 1:30:14 PM PST by trinket
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To: ElkGroveDan

That's Gabriel Martin! Nooooo! Say it ain't so Gabe. Is he one of the... ahem, cowpokes... in Pokeback Mountain?! Papa Benjamin must be spinning....


12 posted on 01/31/2006 1:35:39 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: trinket; Admin Moderator

Brokeback troll alert.


13 posted on 01/31/2006 1:56:18 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: trinket
There is only ONE God...and YOU'RE not Him!

Fortunately He gave us a rule Book to live by:

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

14 posted on 01/31/2006 2:02:22 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Hatteras
Do Ledger (yes, that's Gabriel Martin, and I prolly will throw away my DVD of the Patriot)....

..Do Ledger and Gyllenhaal seriously expect any females with half a brain to attend any movie where they're suppose to be in love with a ....girl?????

They've ruined it for me....and I really liked Ledger before....thought him very macho.

Never again....truly, he and gyllenhaal's faces make me want to upchuck now!

So, are they relegated to boy/boy movies from now on?

Will the buying public really want to see them in some macho movie without laughing through the entire thing!

15 posted on 01/31/2006 2:04:08 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: trinket
Help me out a little more with the "facts", would ya?

They ARE cowboys. They work on ranches and they rodeo. They herd sheep JUST for the summer

So, are they cowboys or sheepherders? Sounds like sheepherders to me. Wearing a cowboy hat and cowboy boots doesn't make you a cowboy. Remember John Travolta?

They were NOT married w/children when they first met and became involved.

But, they are married and have children and cheat on their spouses, right? With a man, no less. But, because their gay relationship superceded their marriages, it's okay?

Only one of the SHEEPHERDERS marriage dissolved.

And I guess the other one's wife and family was just fine with them cheating on them with a man, huh? No divorce, no foul? Nobody hurt here?

And you Einstein's DO know that 1/2 of all marriages end in divorce, right?

And that somehow justifies the gay relationship?

2 guys is not a "turn on" anymore for US than it is for YOU!

I'm glad to hear it. Actually, that kind of activity displayed on the big screen would make my wife physically ill, just as it does ne. But, you're not bothered by it?

It in NO WAY (not even a litte TINY bit) glorifies the gay lifestyle.

No? Then why are all the gays so fired up about this movie about their lifestyle? Maybe glorifies the lifestyle isn't the right term. Do you deny that the movie's agenda is to drum up sympathy for the gay lifestyle? Does the movie not try to evoke empathetic feelings for the characters involved? Sounds like a duck, quacks like a duck. Duck.

There is only ONE God...and YOU'RE not Him!

Never claimed to be. Never even felt like commenting on a brokeback article until your post.

Just my opinion, but it looks like you registered with FR just to defend this movie about a couple of gay guys. It looks like, from the "tone" of your post, that you are pretty ticked off by the criticism of the movie. Too bad, as a conservative, I support your right to defend the movie about gay sheepherders, and as a conservative, it shouldn't bother you so much the criticism. First amendment, and all.

By the way, welcome to FR. Maybe after the hubbub of this movie dies away, you can get into some real discussions here about today's conservative issues, including the fight against the gay agenda being championed by leftists.
16 posted on 01/31/2006 2:04:23 PM PST by Texas2step (<><)
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To: trinket
Get your facts. The 50% statistic is pure baloney that has been repeated by the liberal left for decades now. The actual divorce rate is between 11 and 13%.

God made us in his image, therefore he gave us reason to form our own judgments.

I can't imagine the creator of the Hulk creating a good movie.
17 posted on 01/31/2006 3:00:40 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Bea Elysian
Brokeback -
Understanding Propaganda

By Dr. R. Winfield
1-31-6
 
The most effective propaganda comes in under the radar, it's innocuous and appeals to our humanity and emotions. Having studied propaganda and its effects on societies for over 50 years, I can state unequivocally that the film Brokeback Mountain is one of the most blatant propaganda pieces of recent times.
 
In a society that is purposely and effectively dumbed down, the rarest and most valuable of commodities is discernment. Increasingly crucial, discernment is an attribute of astute acumen, and vital as your enemy uses crafty subtlety. As a people, we have lost discernment. Logic, rational and intellectual discourse, are shunned from the public square. Feelings, emotional sentiment and compassion are no longer tempered with intelligent reason. Now truth is sacrificed on the altar of "tolerance.
 
To even talk rationally about a film like this will endanger one of causing immediate knee-jerk reactions with slogans; "homophobe, bigot, narrow minded, etc. And God forbid you dare to insinuate that there is an agenda behind such obvious propaganda, or you will surely hear the two words designed to end all discussion or consideration of facts.; "Conspiracy Theory.
 
Agendas and purposes behind what we are seeing, shall be dealt with, but first, the film.
 
Yes, I saw Brokeback Mountain, and no I didn't spend any money to support it. An actress friend lent me her "academy consideration DVD (a crime that in many cases now carries a stiffer penalty than murder). First and foremost, I,ve yet to hear anyone mention how boring this film is. It's tediously long and in most parts just plain dull. But let's look at some of the propaganda aspects, shall we?
 
Indeed nature is beautiful, and its grandeur is depicted with majesty and uplifting music, great sweeping vistas instill a sense of awe and splendor. It is of course in this setting that the "homosexual romance blossoms. But even more significant, this is where the men discuss the deeper things of life, theology, meaning, etc.
 
Contrast this with the scenes of marriage. Every time marriage is depicted in the film, it is shot in a tiny dark squalid hovel, with screaming children and absolute pandemonium. The house is a mess, the wife never communicates on any kind of meaningful level. Wives in fact, are portrayed as a constant annoyance, and more irritating than understanding. But children receive the worst treatment in this slanted rant against family. They are usually crying, often two at a time, or smashing things, the general feeling the film presents, is that these joyless hellions are an intrusion into life, an encumbrance and a terrible burden.
 
Making sure it drums in its message in no uncertain terms, the film keeps switching back and forth between the two contrasts. The great outdoors, wild and free, close to nature, close to God, close to hot gay sex without any negative consequences. Back inside the dark little messy box of marriage, with horrible in-laws, demon spawn children, berating nagging wives, endless pressures and even the loveless, passionless sex has hanging over it the dread of producing more parasitic offspring.
 
Special note must be taken of music and lighting, how they are carefully manipulated to accentuate these contrasts in the manner outlined here, bringing a much deeper impact of the propaganda message. Marvelous tools, music and light illicit emotional responses, and penetrate the subject to effect his core values. The use of props in the juxtaposition of images adds power to the medium. There is a scene where the Heath Ledger character is saddled with his wife and children, struggling among the crowds to watch the fireworks. The opening shot depicts husband and wife, each with a child in one arm, and great square bags full of baby necessities in the other hand. The construction of this frame is identical to the earlier shots of the pack mules heavily laden with similar square heavy supplies. Marriage has turned him into a beast of burden, a theme reinforced throughout.
 
Another common theme these days, is of course portrayed in the film; that of "religious intolerance. Remember, the wilderness loving gay fellas are close to God, out in the high places, whereas the church folk are depicted as spouting "hellfire and brimstone. The film also shows two horrific murders, and the connection is not lost, it is precisely this type of religious thought that contributes to this sort of bloody violence. The implication is, and this is the very strength of propaganda, if you are in anyway opposed to two men "loving each other, then you must be for brutally murdering them. Do you see the way these things are subtly implied? Just like, if you are not for abortion, then ipso-facto you must be for the murdering of doctors who perform them. This is one the objects of propaganda, reduction of critical argument down into well drummed slogans, therefore removal of discourse, then total polarization of advocates and detractors into radical extremes. Of course this fits perfectly with the method of those purveying propaganda, as they have chosen Hegelian dialecticalism to divide and conquer you and I.
 
Earlier I mentioned that the homosexual sex was portrayed as without negative consequences, some may take objection to this. You might say, what about the violent deaths, how can you say without consequences? Think about the film again, the violence is presented not as a result of the sex, but rather the result of a backwards people, mindless ignorant hicks, who's judgmental religious intolerance killed those beautiful martyrs. See how they work it?
 
The film preaches quite a lot about sex, man's "need for it is apparently only surpassed by his need to breath oxygen. The lies they told about fishing demonstrate that gay sex was even more important than food. Of course the Jake Gyllenhaal character when deprived of this vital necessity has no other choice than to leave his wife and child and search out Mexican male prostitutes. When even this leaves him unable to find enough "manlove he is forced to lower his standard and carry on an adulterous relationship with some woman he has no feelings for, all perfectly justifiable because the evil society is hindering the two gays total access.
 
So what about the "love, is this really a film about love? Having spoken to a lot of women about this film, I can tell you, they think it is. "Oh, it's a true love story. they pine. A married woman told me, "Because it's about two men it's much more interesting, a man and a woman would be banal. What's going on? When a woman tells me it's about "true love, I ask her how she knows that? They don't have much to say beyond what the film presents. When informed of the statistics that the majority of male homosexuals are the single most promiscuous segment of the world's population, having more anonymous sexual partners per year than any other group, these women shut down. "Oh I,m not interested in the real gay sex, I just like the love story, one told me. Oh, so you,re Truthophobic, I said. You see, the facts, statistics, recorded data on a subject are not important, in fact they are rather a stark reminder of something we,d prefer to ignore. Truth is something we want to completely tune out with our escapism, hence fantasy is more to be desired than the mundane existence of reality.
 
The promotion of gay men to women has seen a real upswing in the past 10 years or so. Every sitcom has a funny gay character, and of course he's the funniest, least inhibited and most able to communicate with women. Queer Eye For The Straight Guy tells women that gay men are superior to the knuckle dragging neanderthal you have at home. When the Queer Eye fab five went on Oprah, "normal housewives screamed and swooned like schoolgirls cheering rockstars. But the agenda goes deeper, the plan is to get women interested in gay porn as an addictive and isolating tool of division. Sex In The City, shows women sitting together giggling while watching gay porn. The biggest thrust in this wave is coming out of Japan and targeting your preteen daughters. It's called Yaoi.
 
Yaoi is a massive multi-million dollar subculture providing young girls with comic books and animated films depicting gay romantic love between handsome boys, culminating in explicit hard core homosexual pornography. The tide of this material represents a generation of girls whose misdirected sexuality is being warped in an unnatural direction. Traveling extensively, I warn you this epidemic is rampant throughout Europe, Russia, Asia, and now making heavy inroads into the Americas. Parents have no idea what their young girls have tucked under their mattresses, or hidden in closets and computers. Scores of websites are devoted to young girls fiction describing their fantasies of young men in popular music, tv, film, etc, all engaged in romantic "love and gay sex.
 
Teen girls rapidly become obsessed with Yaoi and find it an entry drug to other shows like Queer As Folk, and gay hardcore. Many discuss openly their confusion about sex, not wanting a husband or baby, or angst ridden with their own experimentation towards bisexuality and lesbianism. Of course, they,re all buzzing about Brokeback.
 
None are buzzing more than the critics who are falling over themselves in trying to outdo one another in kissing this film's ass. Sad but so predictable, as homoeroticism has been chosen as this year's politically correct cause for film awards. Just like the year it was blacks and everything black won everything great. Never mind that Oscar winner Halley Barry is said to have a black and white parent, meaning she's as much white as she is black. You see, in the brave new world of propaganda soaked society, truth is no longer black and white. It's all gray now, everything is blurred. Or as the popular group Blur sings ...
 
"Girls who are boys
Who like boys to be girls
Who do boys like they're girls
Who do girls like they're boys
Always should be someone you really love
 
Confused yet?
 
Good, that's what they want.

18 posted on 02/01/2006 12:15:25 PM PST by pineconeland (Or dip a pinecone in melted suet, stuff with peanut butter, and hang it from a tree.)
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