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Dominatrix Acquitted in Bondage Death
AP ^ | 1/30/6

Posted on 01/30/2006 12:44:16 PM PST by SmithL

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To: carlr
The heart attack notwithstanding,why do some people want to do this kind of stuff?

You might ask one of the Democrats who filibustered today.
Mr. Kerry, don't you get quite enough of this at home?

61 posted on 01/30/2006 4:16:16 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: supercat

ok, now explain to me why she wasnt convicted!! chopping up the body and dumping it is worth a charge of some sort!!


62 posted on 01/30/2006 4:21:21 PM PST by ccwoman
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To: ccwoman
ok, now explain to me why she wasnt convicted!! chopping up the body and dumping it is worth a charge of some sort!!

Because (at least by my reading of the article) the only evidence that such a thing ever happened is the claim of some police investigators that she confessed to them. No written confession, no recorded confession, nor even any contemporaneous notes of the confession by the investigators in question.

Do you think that investigators' recollections of a confession should be admitted as evidence when not backed up by even contemporaneous notes regarding what the suspect supposedly said?

63 posted on 01/30/2006 4:32:51 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Mr. Kerry doesn't get anything at home, is my thinking.


64 posted on 01/30/2006 4:44:49 PM PST by peacebaby (I'm Louise)
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To: supercat; ccwoman

ok, now explain to me why she wasnt convicted!! chopping up the body and dumping it is worth a charge of some sort!!



Because she knew somebody, really really well. Sombody with a lot of power.


65 posted on 01/30/2006 4:49:23 PM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: peacebaby
Mr. Kerry doesn't get anything at home, is my thinking.

I think what he gets at home is plenty of hot tongue and cold shoulder.

66 posted on 01/30/2006 4:55:09 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: andy58-in-nh

I don't know how to intepret the "hot tongue" but you're right about the cold shoulder.

Maybe he just doesn't need any "thing," seeing as how he's such a wuss.


67 posted on 01/30/2006 4:57:37 PM PST by peacebaby (I'm Louise)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Bumper Sticker seen on Volvo.

My boy friend is Slave of the Week
at Mistress Dominica's house of Submission!


68 posted on 01/30/2006 5:01:34 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: peacebaby

"Hot tongue" = angry words.


69 posted on 01/30/2006 5:04:31 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: muir_redwoods

kinda glad I missed the all-you-can-eat, mixed grill night special at that restaurant.

Isn't it amazing what MSG will do to a tough cut of meat?

Try the Szechuan Pork, it's AMAZINGLY tender tonight!


70 posted on 01/30/2006 5:06:55 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

ok,,... I was thinking erotic for a minute there... Never mind.


71 posted on 01/30/2006 5:11:50 PM PST by peacebaby (I'm Louise)
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To: Chickensoup
ok, now explain to me why she wasnt convicted!! chopping up the body and dumping it is worth a charge of some sort!!

What evidence is there that she in fact committed the crime?

72 posted on 01/30/2006 5:13:11 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Chanticleer
I'd probably spend the next five minutes playing with the zipper.

LOL! My hubby has a mustache, can you imagine facial hair getting caught in that zipper? Ouch! Although the users would probably find that pain "exciting". ;@/
73 posted on 01/30/2006 5:31:36 PM PST by Millee (I've got FRiends in low places..)
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To: supercat

I see your point. Seems like the police dropped the ball on this one big time.


74 posted on 01/30/2006 9:04:19 PM PST by ccwoman
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To: SmithL

This trial has been pure torture!


75 posted on 01/31/2006 12:14:34 PM PST by ftriggerf
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To: carlr

One second... let me take off my leather mask first.

That is so much better!

You asked why some people do this... frankly, and this may seem like a 'canned' response, but the attraction varies for each person within the BDSM lifestyle. The individual desires are as unique as the participants.
The bottom (no pun intended) line, in my own opinion, is that the power exchange between the participants creates and endorphine rush that cannot be easily explained.
The act of surrendering yourself to a trusted partner, placing yourself completely under another person's control, is very liberating to the psyche of the submissive. The submissive is free to 'let go' of all inhibitions, all stress. In this state, he or she is able to experience sensations that they would normally not have. The human mind has a powerful way of reacting to unusual stimuli, pumping endorphines into our bodies, elliciting a hormonal rush that many people crave.
In the case of a bondage scene, the submissive cannot escape directly, but that does not stop the mind and body from pumping out adrenline in response to the 'fight or flight' reflex.
From a Dominant's standpoint, the control over another person creates a similar rush within their mind and body. In my own opinion, this could go back to the stereotypic depiction of cavemen dragging their women off by the hair. The Dominant is in control, and it is within his or her power to use that power, that control, to fulfill whatever fantasy has been mutually agreed upon between the parties.
It is through this action, the fantasy, that the Dominant returns the power to the submissive.
It is a shared experience, and thereby a true power exchange.
Many people think that BDSM is just about 'kinky sex' and are probably wondering where the sex comes in.
It does not come in.
BDSM is not about sex.
That is something separate, and if people want to have sex and call it BDSM, that is their business, and in my own opinion, they can do what they want. It simply is not my concern.

My own comments about this case:
For the prosecution: The crime here seems to be the events that took place in disposing of this man's body, not the fact that he died during a bondage scene. This woman's actions are criminal, but only in this light, in my opinion.

For the defense: If this man were on a replica of a rack, he would have been laying down. His head would not have slumped forward from that position. And with his hands extended above his head, his arms would have held his head in place. So this attorney was merely engaging in theatrics with his hood event for the jury.
Chances are, that if the victim's hood zipper over his mouth were zipped, he was holding a ping-pong ball for safety. You are probably wondering why. If a person cannot talk, and therefore cannot say a 'safeword', there has to be a means of communication. A common signal is the ping-pong ball. When it drops, the Dominant stops immediately to determine what is wrong.
In this case, presuming that he held something similar as a signal device, he may have held on too long. She may have not realized his problem until it was already too late, and he had already passed away.


76 posted on 02/10/2006 8:11:57 AM PST by TheyCallMeDad (I have 14 children. Donations always accepted! :))
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