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To: highball
Part of what is confusing me is the terminology. Gravitational law/theory in what way were you asking the question concerning it, I want to understand your question further.

The extrapolation of population density, or interpolation if you are going backwards, has seemed very interesting to me in the evo/id sense. If standard population growth rate of the world is say 2% per year, and that is offset by death, plague, famine, catastrophy, etc. by say 1.5% then a mean average of population growth could be assumed (scary word, I know) to be one half percent per year.

This in context to the timelines of either evolutionary or ID theory would be an interesting topic, at least to me. That is why i asked about it. I hadn't seen it pop up on a any of the threads.

Thanks for the reply.

K4

10 posted on 01/26/2006 8:29:06 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (There is an APB out for my tagline. If you find it, FReepmail me.)
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To: K4Harty
Part of what is confusing me is the terminology. Gravitational law/theory in what way were you asking the question concerning it, I want to understand your question further.

It's not surpring that the terminology is confusing. Creationist organizations keep trying to muddy the waters with their "it's only a theory" tactic, pretending that "theory" somehow means "guess" in science.

Allow me to clarify the terms in their scientific, not colloquial, definitions.

Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"

Hypothesis: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices"

Guess: an opinion or estimate based on incomplete evidence, or on little or no information

Law: a generalization that describes recurring facts or events in nature; "the laws of thermodynamics"

Assumption: premise: a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; "on the assumption that he has been injured we can infer that he will not to play"

Speculation: a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence)

Observation: any information collected with the senses

Data: factual information, especially information organized for analysis or used to reason or make decisions

Fact: when an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact

Belief: any cognitive content (perception) held as true; religious faith

Faith: the belief in something for which there is no evidence or logical proof

Dogma: a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof

Impression: a vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying"

Based on this, evolution is a theory. CS and ID are beliefs.

Now, as far as gravitation is concerned, there is as much if not more evidence to support the Theory of Evolution as there is Gravitational Theory, or Germ Theory. Yet I don't see any posts from creationists claiming that we have to teach any "alternatives" to the theory that germs cause disease. Do you?

If creationists don't insist that those are "only theories", why not?

Now, as far as population goes:

The extrapolation of population density, or interpolation if you are going backwards, has seemed very interesting to me in the evo/id sense. If standard population growth rate of the world is say 2% per year, and that is offset by death, plague, famine, catastrophy, etc. by say 1.5% then a mean average of population growth could be assumed (scary word, I know) to be one half percent per year.

This in context to the timelines of either evolutionary or ID theory would be an interesting topic, at least to me. That is why i asked about it. I hadn't seen it pop up on a any of the threads.

I'm really not sure what conclusions you think could be drawn from that. I think the thing to do is formulate a hypothesis that could be tested by studying the data. What exactly are you trying to say?

11 posted on 01/26/2006 8:44:18 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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