Posted on 01/16/2006 6:48:08 AM PST by beyond the sea
You are correct, my bad.
However reviewing the play, the runner was as guilty of hanging onto the facemask of the tackler as the other way.
At least pretty-boy Peyton Manning will be rested up for the Pro Bowl. I'm sure he'll put up some awesome passing stats.
Speaking of bad through-the-end-zone fumble calls, how about that one from Saturday? I don't know what replays the refs watched, but the ones I did clearly show the ball gone from Champ Bailey's hand (and ultimately through the end zone) before he went out of bounds.
The ref should resign, what a horrible call.
Yeah, the Bears receiver got tagged immediately and lost the ball, so that should have been ruled incomplete (unless you call the look of fear in his eyes as the defender was nailing him a "football move" ;)
And don't get me started on all their conflicting end zone/OB/ball position rules .... all you see now are guys launching themselves from the 5 and ending up out of bounds past the goal line being called TD's -- remember why the score was named a TOUCHDOWN?
Intentional grounding aside from distance penalized is also a "loss of down", i,e. unlike other penalties, you don't get the down over.
You cant use geometry to find something like that out. The video itself has to be clear and conclusive. No angle showed it inside the pylon, thus the call couldnt be reversed.
They sure did.
HOOAH!
This is a ch__ch. What's missing?
It does.
The zebras are becoming absurd!
I just watched a one hour sum-up show on ESPN. The two guys on there were ripping the refs for the Palumalo call. I never heard such disgust in these guys' voices. They said it was pitiful, they nearly said it looked like a fix it was so bad, but they backed off that. They knew that would not be cool with the league.
Anyhow, the "football move" thing must be cleared up.
Yesterday the league came out with a statement that the call "was a judgment call" by the official. And today everyone who has played pro football and is on these media shows says that "judgment" sucks.
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By the way, how long was that delay taken to reverse that interception call ....... I think it was about seven or eight minutes in all.
I didn't see this posted:
NFL: Polamalu overturned interception the wrong call
Associated Press
NEW YORK -- The NFL said the referee made a mistake: Troy Polamalu caught the ball.
The league acknowledged Monday that referee Pete Morelli erred when he overturned on replay Polamalu's interception of a Peyton Manning pass Sunday in the playoff game between Pittsburgh and Indianapolis.
Mike Pereira, the league's vice president of officiating, said in a statement that Morelli should have upheld the call, made with 5:26 left in Pittsburgh's win over the Colts.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/news/story?id=2294309
"About a dozen TV and scoreboard replays indicated otherwise." --- right, and every ex-pro player-turned commentator on TV has said the call was total crap. It was so bad Salsbury even said it looked like a FIX...... then he properly backed away from that like a guy with a rattlesnake by his bare foot.
"The issue was whether he had possession. The ball came loose when he was getting up. Pete Morelli determined it wasn't a catch," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. "That was his judgment." ---- crumby judgment. The pros on TV said this guy's "judgment" should not be involved in any future playoff games.
"Aiello added that the league's officiating department had not yet officially reviewed the call to determine if Morelli had made the right decision." --- yeh right. They're just getting their wordsmiths together.
Porter was wrong to say what he did, but he was fired up right after the game. When you work that hard for something it's easy to make silly remarks.
BUT, the call was so universally panned by all the ex-professional players turned commentators on radio, TV, and in print, that it LOOKED LIKE A FIX. It was that bad.
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You've been so "right on" on this whole thread, I think you ought to be an official. Really.
"The fact that the officiating team took as long as it did to decide the call is indictment enough." ---- Yep.
"They were not determining the spot of the ball - they were just trying to decide if the pass "caught" by Troy P. was a complete pass/incomplete pass. If it took the OFFICIALS that long, there's a problem..." ---- There's a problem. These guys are thinking too much.
One other thing that could be improved is to alter the rules so that there are more punt returns. The punt returns are some of the most exciting plays in a football game. Too often they have to call for a fair catch, and often the ball is kicked into the end zones or out of bounds. Efforts should be made, imo, to increase the number of punt returns by altering a rule or two. It would be easy.
Then everyone would hate me. But they do make good money.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060116/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_steelers_colts_wrong_call_2
The NFL said the referee made a mistake: Troy Polamalu caught the ball. The league acknowledged Monday that Referee Pete Morelli erred when he overturned on replay Polamalu's interception of a Peyton Manning pass Sunday in the playoff game between Pittsburgh and Indianapolis.
Mike Pereira, the league's vice president of officiating, said in a statement that Morelli should have let the call on the field stand.
"He maintained possession long enough to establish a catch," Pereira said. "Therefore, the replay review should have upheld the call on the field that it was a catch and fumble."
After the reversal, made with 5:26 left in Pittsburgh's win over the Colts, Indianapolis went on to score a touchdown and a 2-point conversion, cutting the Steelers' 21-10 lead to 21-18. That led to a wild final few minutes, filled with unbelievable twists and turns, including Colts kicker Mike Vanderjagt's missed 46-yard field-goal attempt that clinched it for Pittsburgh.
On the play, Polamalu made a diving catch of Manning's pass, tumbled with it in his hands and got up to run. As he did, he fumbled the ball, then recovered. Colts coach Tony Dungy challenged and Morelli ruled Polamalu had not completed the catch.
Shortly after the game, Morelli said: "I had the defender catching the ball. Before he got up, he hit it with his leg with his other leg still on the ground. Therefore, he did not complete the catch. And then he lost the ball. It came out, and so we made the play an incomplete pass."
Had the call stood, the Steelers would have had the ball at their own 48 with an 11-point lead.
"The definition of a catch or in this case an interception states that in the process of making a catch a player must maintain possession of the ball after he contacts the ground," Pereira said.
"The rule regarding the performing of an act common to the game applies when there is contact with a defensive player and the ball comes loose, which did not happen here."
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