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To: Racehorse

I watched Young play the other night. He is good for a college player. I do not believe he will do well in the NFL.


We have seen hundreds of quarterbacks like him, fail in the NFL. Cade McNown, Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, ect...... What made them great in college, normally takes years to accomplish in the NFL. These players were great in college because of great runningbacks, receivers and of course, a great offensive line. When being drafted by a team at the bottom of the heap, they have none of these things in the NFL. It takes years to build that type of team. Unfortunately, very few teams have that desire. They want their young quarterback to win and win now. If they do not- they send them packing.

Unless Young is drafted to back up a great quarterback, like Farve- then he has very little chance. I do not see too many teams in the NFL right now that are willing to be patient with a new quarterback. The last team to really show that patience was the Colts and Manning. Manning showed great promise and they stuck with him, win or lose. Now look at Peyton!!!!

I hope this kid is not throwing away a chance to defend his National Championship title, in order make a few bucks.


11 posted on 01/08/2006 2:20:00 PM PST by KCRW
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To: KCRW
I hope this kid is not throwing away a chance to defend his National Championship title, in order make a few bucks.

Now that's a touch choice! Let's see, another year in school, rooming with some other dude, having to get on a bus and ride for 10 hours at a stretch...

OR...Sign a multi-year $40 million contract and never have to worry about doing real work ever again.

Let me think on that and get back to you!

23 posted on 01/08/2006 7:25:04 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Time to clean up for the cleaning people)
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To: KCRW
I watched Young play the other night. He is good for a college player. I do not believe he will do well in the NFL. We have seen hundreds of quarterbacks like him, fail in the NFL. Cade McNown, Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, ect.....

HUH? What similarities do you see between Young and any of those players listed?

25 posted on 01/08/2006 8:23:13 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: KCRW
I hope this kid is not throwing away a chance to defend his National Championship title, in order make a few bucks.

Oh please .....this kid has it made if he goes straight to the NFL. At the very least he gets a GUARANTEED signing bonus in the millions.

IF he goes back to college for a 'chance to defend his National Championship title' all he gets is a chance. UT may have a repeat and win again, but on the other hand they may fizzle. Vince may get injured, or he may have a whole season with nardy a cold let alone a sports injury. He may achieve even greater accomplishments than he did, or he may lose his mojo and lustre.

Anything could happen if he decides to stay in college. There are a couple of people who could have been drafted but decided to stay behind to their detriment. The most recent example(that had a bust) was Jason White, who had an extremely good year in 2003 (including winning the Heisman, with 40 touchdown passes with only 10 interceptions ....as well as the Associated Press Player of the Year, consensus All-American, consensus Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year, the Davey O'Brien Award and the Jim Thorpe Courage Award). All of those were in 2003.

However he managed to go back to OU for a 'second' final year, and what happened? In his bid to be the second person to EVER win a second Heisman (after that Archie something dude), White did his best. He was even in the running for a Heisman (although he lost to USC's Leinart ...actually I believe White came third not even second). Moreover in the Orange Bowl USC THRASHED OU .....whipped them good ....and White looked like a chump.

Had Jason gone into the draft after his Heisman (after the 2003 season) he would have been drafted at a very good spot (and even if he had fizzled, as he did, he would still have gotten nice compensation for his time), but he waited for another year (and all he got for his efforts was becoming the all-record holder in touchdowns and passes at Oklahoma University. An amazing accomplishment, but I think he aimed at having more than just that). His professional fate was getting signed by the Titans as a free agent, and White did not even finish training camp before retiring from the NFL.

Vince Young is sitting on cloud 9 right now. The fact still remains that he will probably be one of the top 3 drafts this season (I still think Bush will get first), and he will receive a GUARANTEED signing bonus in the millions. True, he could fizzle out, but at least he would fizzle out with something (and I personally do not think he will ....abd comparing Vince Young with a crazy hothead like Ryan Leaf as you did is a HUGE stretch. Leaf was a silly crazy).

Anyways, Young has a gilded deal in front of him if he goes to the NFL. If he stays in college all he has is a 'maybe' in terms of winning another championship, and another 'maybe' that he will still be hot after 2006. He'd be a fool to not get into the draft this year, and fortunately he appears not to be one.

26 posted on 01/08/2006 8:24:33 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: KCRW
Your point is well taken! I might add in defense of Young that if he should stay with UT, and might suffer a career-ending injury in a football next fall, his chance in NFL would evaporate.

By taking a leap into NFL now, and make that million plus bucks signng bonus and more with playing time for a season would take care of that. He can always go back to college and get that degree.

Emmitt Smith did that and got his degree (BTW, it was in Business Administration and Finance if I'm not mistaken). He probably still has his first dollar he ever earned! He is pretty tight with his money! LOL

35 posted on 01/08/2006 10:04:48 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (In Memory of James W. Bruhn, November, 1966, Vietnam. May he not die in vain!)
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