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Terrorist Nukes in America

Posted on 01/02/2006 6:02:05 PM PST by TexasPatriot8

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To: rirepublican

You're welcome. Thank you for letting me know the source! :) I really apprecaite it. It was just released Christmas Eve, that's only a week old. More recent than I thought. Not "old news" at all. Thanks. :)


41 posted on 01/02/2006 7:29:26 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: oceanview
Rirepublican just posted the original World Net Daily link, that article I posted was just written on December 24th of 05, so it's barely a week old. Not weeks or months. You may have seen similar ones, but the one I posted was just a week old. So I'm not surprised I hadn't seen it before, since the past week I hadn't been on the net at all.

And like I said before, if there was a massive nuclear exchange near populated areas, it would cause hundreds of thousands of deaths in the coming years, but the testing in the 50s and 60s were in the uninhabited Pacific, and the American deserts, far from populated areas, so there were no hundreds of thousands to be effected. By the time the radiation from one low yield explosion every few months got to a large population center, if it did, it would have dispersed to the point of being non-lethal as it moves on. As I said before, I'm talking about a large exchange of several, ten or more even, deliberately detonated in population centers which would kill many in the blast, and then kill more in the populated areas near the blast, as the radiation sweeps through the area with the prevailing winds. I don't know why you're wanting to argue with me on this. I'm not saying anything controversial or unscientific. This is all well established science, and frankly, much "older" than you thought this article was. I have nothing to gain from being right on this, I wish that wasn't how it was. But it is.

42 posted on 01/02/2006 7:36:08 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

that is only the release of the story about the "sniffing" - the actual monitoring occured starting after 9-11.


43 posted on 01/02/2006 7:38:01 PM PST by oceanview
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To: TexasPatriot8

and the other stuff in the article about OBLs nuclear plan - is just repackaging of the old claims into this article about the sniffing of the Muslim sites.


44 posted on 01/02/2006 7:43:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: sionnsar
If they take out Seattle, Washington will become a red state.

Only if they hurry. East King County seems to be getting bluer by the week.

45 posted on 01/02/2006 7:48:30 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: oceanview

I never claimed anything to the contrary. I simply stated that it was a scary prospect, and I posted it for those who like me had not read that specific article. As for the radiation after effects, I can't be more clear than in my past couple posts. That pretty much says it all, and that is how it works. Have a good week. Good night.


46 posted on 01/02/2006 7:49:46 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Its a World Net Daily article from this past summer. They did a whole series...How much was true, how much was scare-mongering? How much was headline attention?

welcome aboard texaspatriot8

47 posted on 01/02/2006 8:15:10 PM PST by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing"--only a thin dollar, babies free!)
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To: TexasPatriot8
On July 11, 2005, we first reported on al-Qaida's decade-long plans to detonate nuclear devices in seven major U.S. cities simultaneously in an operation it calls "American Hiroshima."

In numerous cases, reports U.S. News, the monitoring required investigators to go on to the property under surveillance, although no search warrants or court orders were ever obtained.

It appears US News is your source, right?

48 posted on 01/02/2006 8:33:54 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: TexasPatriot8

You sure get around newbie; from brokeback mountain to the SHEER MADNESS!!!! of nukes. In the words of Dan Rather "Courage" or was it "What's the Frequency Kenneth"? or whatever. Nice tag line, and the phrasing remind me of a certain Starship Trooper film. Interesting.


49 posted on 01/02/2006 8:45:02 PM PST by ricks_place (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future)
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50 posted on 01/02/2006 10:12:29 PM PST by twidle
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To: TexasPatriot8
Had you? And, I said I was new, so if it was old, I didn't know. That's why I said it. :)

You're cool. Some here like to impress everyone (and themselves) with their time here. They get a rise out of ridiculing people if they are relatively new here. Ignore them.

Your news is not particularly new, but it is very much worth seeing again. It is a very disturbing story.

51 posted on 01/02/2006 10:28:02 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: TexasPatriot8

That picture was earlier probably.


52 posted on 01/02/2006 10:28:56 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: TexasPatriot8
I was posting it because the possibility of the content disturbed me and I had yet to read something that was so specific and detailed with an actual intelligence source cited. That was the main reason I posted it because the possibility of something that specific happening is really scary. So, given that, maybe you could back off a little please? Thanks. I only joined a bit ago over Christmas, and sure wasn't posting this to get chewed on because I didn't dot my I's or cross my T's in the first thread I made. :) You likely didn't know what all everyone had ever talked about on here back when you joined, and you probably wouldn't have liked someone fussing at you like you're doing, right?

You're right, as I said before. Some, such as the one you are speaking to, have nothing better to do than harass new posters.. It's one of the few negatives here. Ignore those taunts.

;-)

53 posted on 01/02/2006 10:36:36 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: Cvengr; TexasPatriot8
then IMHO, we need an intelligence gathering capacity, perhaps amongst all powers and authorities to track those with such power and hold them accountable

Good idea, but good luck.

Tell the Democrats. Maybe John Kerry can work something out with France and all those world leaders who love him.

;-)

;-)

54 posted on 01/02/2006 10:39:31 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: TexasPatriot8
I fully expect that sometime in the next 10 to 20 years, there will be a nuclear weapon detonated in an American city. With the fanatical nature of the terrorists, and nuclear technology being nearly as widespread today as the internal combustion engine was 80 years ago, it seems to be a question of when, not if.

Yes, but I'd say five years is closer to reality.

55 posted on 01/02/2006 10:41:46 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: melt

They might do that. Mecca has been a terrorist target--substantial shootouts now and then, just like in other Saudi cities.


56 posted on 01/03/2006 11:02:35 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: abigkahuna
Hello, thanks for the welcome. :)

Unfortunately, I believe most of it is true. There is no upside to scare mongoring, since time would prove it wrong and bring consequence for those making things up. But there seems to be a concerted effort by the left to downplay the danger of islamo-fascist terrorists. Just four short years after 9-11 that's staggering.

The reality is that to the terrorist muslims, and in the minds of many muslims who are not terrorists, this is a war between islam and the rest of the world. The reality is also that islam has been fighting this war for 1,400 years. And the west has refused to engage for hundreds of years. A couple political science friends of mine talk about that frequently. When you look on a map at how far islam has spread, and how depraved and impoverished those nations on Earth are, it's a scary thing. That's the reality that too many Americans still don't understand. This is a war against freedom and democratic western society, and a scary number of about 150 million Americans still oppose it to this day. Sad and scary.

57 posted on 01/08/2006 3:02:51 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Hello. The exact article I posted was World Net Daily. Did U.S. News and World Report do a similar story recently? If so, I'd love to see if you have a link to it. The world Net Daily article was really well written and well reasoned. Thanks.


58 posted on 01/08/2006 3:03:59 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: ricks_place
Hi. When I was on last week that thread happened to catch my eye and I had just been to the Yahoo! movies site seeing how well Narnia was doing and noticed how horribly brokeback mountain was doing. What a joke.

Glad you like my tag line. You must like it to use it yourself. Cool. :) is it like a line in Starship Troopers? I can't recall. NOW I'm going to have to watch it to see if I can notice it. All your fault. :) Heehee.

59 posted on 01/08/2006 3:08:12 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons,"

The yield may be close, but at only 50 – 80 kilos there wouldn’t be much shielding. They would be easy to find.
60 posted on 01/08/2006 3:18:56 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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