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To: MikeinIraq
The year of the Big 12 is at hand. After being maligned all season they are now 4-1 with several significant underdogs. Not only are they 4-1 but they put in 8 teams so they are winning bowl games with the middle of their 'weak' conference. No question they don't have the great teams they normally do but they appear to have some strength down the line. Contrast that to the always over rated Pac 10 who is in the second spot at 3-1. The Pac 10 is going with their best 5 teams and were prohibitive favorites in all four so far. Of these only UCLA covered the spread despite being outgained by about 150 yards. Additional bias is shown by Oregon, the number 6 team in the country with only one loss being only a 3 pt favorite over an average Big 12 team. While they didn't have their QB that doesn't translate into that many pts IMHO. I'm also amazed that Texas Tech doesn't get any respect in the polls and yet are favored over higher ranked Bama. In conclusion I'm looking for a solid Texas win over the often challenged Trojans. Texas beat Ohio St at home and then walked thru a confernece that is 4-1 in bowl games against some fairly good teams. I'm a Buffalo so enough said there but looking forward to next year and our new Blue field.
4 posted on 12/31/2005 9:18:26 AM PST by Bogeygolfer
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To: easymoney
I'm a Buffalo so enough said there but looking forward to next year and our new Blue field.

I think this was a great hire by the Buffs. Hawkins can recruit in CA and will be able to pick up some of the big name in-state (CO) recruits that left for bigger programs like LenDale White at USC or Cory Ross at Nebraska. Look for CU to be back in the BCS mix in 3 years.

5 posted on 12/31/2005 9:35:41 AM PST by curtisgardner
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To: easymoney

whereas I didn't think the Big XII was representative of Texas, I seriously doubt the PAC-10 is representative of USC.

Don't get cocky.


6 posted on 12/31/2005 9:42:18 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Proud "Heathen" (although I regularly attend church) South Park watcher. Live with it.)
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To: easymoney

The Sooners, from the same mighty Big 12 conference as Texas, sure thought they had a chance in last year's title game. A 55-19 decision quickly changed all of that crazy talk.


8 posted on 12/31/2005 9:45:59 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: easymoney

"...the always overrated Pac-10.."

So as usual, where do we begin? Oklahoma played two Pac-10 teams this year, getting blown out by 'overrated' UCLA 41-24, and squeaking by an Oregon team finishing up the year without their quarterback, 17-14. Oklahoma averaged over 30 points a game in their eight Big-12 games, but just 20 per game against the 'lousy, non-existent' Pac-10 defenses they played. You say Oregon was a 'prohibitive' favorite over Oklahoma, but the line was 3 points. When Clemens went out with the broken leg, Oregon limped through three consecutive close games, winning all against Arizona 28-21, Cal 27-20, and Washington State 34-31. It's commendable that they won the games while working in two rookie quarterbacks, but they weren't the same team without Clemens, and this was reflected in the 3 point line for the game, and Oregon missing out on a BCS game. Oklahoma got absolutely screwed by the refs against Texas Tech, otherwise they finish up the season with 7 consecutive wins. So don't try to tell me that it was some huge upset that Oklahoma beat Oregon 17-14.

The toughest game LSU faced all year was Arizona State, who put up 560 yards on that 'powerful SEC defense'. LSU needed two kicking game flukes and a last minute Hail Mary to beat ASU 35-31. Arizona State also played Northwestern earlier this year and beat them 52-21, and UCLA put up 50 on them yesterday. Of the five Pac-10 bowl teams, 3 of them (Cal, Oregon, and Arizona State) lost their starting quarterbacks for the season to injury, and yet still played well.

So gimme a break on this anti-Pac-10 crap. I can understand the frustration of watching USC dominate college football over the past three years, and I can understand your desperate attempt to explain away 34 straight wins as not having come against good competition, but your arguments hold no water. I know they don't hold much water in Norman.

Also, the Pac-10 is 6-1 in their past 7 BCS bowl games, and all six wins were routs. 'Always overrated'? And also, something like 8-3 in their last 11 games against the 'powerful' SEC. How has your conference done in both these categories, by the way?


13 posted on 12/31/2005 10:03:38 AM PST by raptor29
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To: easymoney
If I had more ambition, I'd chase back to the "Oregon got screwed" threads to see who's eating crow. I'm pretty happy with the Big 12 showing this year so far.

Nothing would please me greater, as I watch the nightly ESPN coronation of USC 2005 as one of the greatest national champs ever, then to see the Longhorns serve up a big crap sandwich to the Southern Cal boys.

17 posted on 12/31/2005 10:25:18 AM PST by SoDak
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To: easymoney
In conclusion I'm looking for a solid Texas win over the often challenged Trojans.

Often challenged? Two teams all season were still in the game in the fourth quarter, ND and Fresno. Fresno played the game of their lives, as their nose dive since then has shown.

USC for the past two seasons has always started slow and then blown out their opponents in the second half. If you look at the first half only, then your statement rings witha small note of validity, but also rings hollow as an attempted slap at a team that has had a tremendous record over the past three years.

The USC average margin of victory this year has been 26 points.

94 posted on 12/31/2005 2:20:19 PM PST by Michael.SF. ('Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada' - Ted Nugent.)
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