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To: lqclamar

I want to make something explicitly clear here.
This is the place to rant about the evils of liberals/leftists/"homos"/and whatever the hell else you decide to be pissed off at.

Take it to wikipedia, and I will shoot you down. Personal attacks are off limits. I don't care if its baby murdering femi-nazi or old whitey who's out to supress the rights of women everywhere, make it personal, and you make yourself a problem.

By the by "
This is a partial list of confirmed and debated famous people who were or are gay, lesbian or bisexual. The historical concept and definition of sexual orientation varies and has changed greatly over time— the word "gay" wasn't used to describe sexual orientation until the mid 20th century. See homosexuality and bisexuality for more about the primary (and by far the most controversial) distinguishing criterion of lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) people."

Confirmed and debated. First bloody line. You said it yourself, people think that Lincon was gay. I personally couldn't care less.-- but its a verified fact that people are saying it. Thus we insert that verified fact (that some people think so)

The "beware of freeper" notice was actually just a heads up. Anytime we get an influx of new users, we tend to get an influx of vandals, an influx of misguided newbies, and an influx of potential great editors. I like catogories two and three. I see alot of thought and basic politesse here that suggests people can fit in those two catagories. You're on your way to number one with your adminstrator targeting crusade.


154 posted on 12/31/2005 10:40:30 AM PST by Tznkai
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To: Tznkai
What is the deal with this guy? Did someone refuse to let him be an editor there or something?

I think you've been very patient with these people. You've explained how the thing works and it seems logical.

There's a big difference between a news site and a forum, which is what this is, where people can express opinions.

155 posted on 12/31/2005 10:47:43 AM PST by jjbrouwer (Falling down that hill)
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To: Tznkai
Did I post anything on wikipedia complaining about the left wing kooks that inhabit your admin pool? No.

Do I intend to post anything on wikipedia referring to them as the left wing kooks they are? No.

Have I posted anything at all on wikipedia either on or off this topic? No.

Therefore I would appreciate it if you would refrain from threatening to "shoot me down" in your domain of wikipedia given that I have not even entered that domain and have not even committed the offenses you accuse me of being "on my way" to doing.

That said, as long as left wing extremists continue to control wikipedia's content, censor and suppress conservative opposition, and use wikipedia's content to promote extremist political agendas such as fringe conspiracies on Bush, abortionist frenzies, and homosexual pedarasty (as in the CRIMINAL act of preying on innocent children, which is something that one or more of your administrators appear to be supportive of) I will not hold back from criticizing them here beyond the reach of your control and censorship abilities.

Perhaps you'd find that your beloved encyclopedia would get a better reception around here if it did a better job of addressing its own in house problems. Instead you brush them off, dismiss them, and issue silly "warnings" outside of your own domain against the people who turned the light on the cockroaches in wikipedia's closet. Cause right now it remains unrefuted that:

FACT - Wikipedia was founded by and is currently owned by an internet porno king.

FACT - Wikipedia's site administration is dominated by far left wing activists

FACT - One of the most powerful sysops on Wikipedia is an arbitrator who was disgracefully disbarred for soliciting prostitutes

FACT - There are multiple site administrators on wikipedia who take unusually high interest in potentially libelous anti-Bush conspiracy theories

FACT - There are multiple site administrators on wikipedia who take unusually high interest in homosexual pederasty (an ILLEGAL crime by the way throughout the civilized world) and develop articles that portray it favorably and promote its political advocates

In short, clean up your own house and I'll stop criticizing it.

159 posted on 12/31/2005 10:57:16 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: Tznkai
But its a verified fact that people are saying it. Thus we insert that verified fact (that some people think so)

A fact is not a fact simply because some people believe it
or talk about. That is stupid equivocation and you should
act now to stop it if you have any integrity at all .

180 posted on 12/31/2005 10:52:17 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Tznkai; higgmeister
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famous_gay_lesbian_and_bisexual_people

"Persons of confirmed lesbian, gay or bisexual orientation

The following list includes people who have confirmed their homosexuality or bisexuality, or whose homosexuality or bisexuality is not debated."

Yet if you take a look at the list of supposedly "confirmed" and "not debated" homosexuals you will find dozens upon dozens of historical figures who are listed there based on 20th and 21st century claims by revisionist homosexual "historians," almost all of which are based upon innuendo, speculation, and unreliable sources.

For example, 12th century St. Aelred of Hexham is included in the "confirmed" list based on 20th century speculation and innuendo about his writings

Alexander the Great is included as "confirmed" and is given an Oliver Stone-like treatment based on modern interpretations of rumors in the works of greek writers who lived several centuries after Alexander's death.

Julius Caesar is listed as "confirmed" based on rumors spread by Caesar's political opponents. It should also be noted that the Caesar article itself on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar) includes graphic homosexual descriptions including a claim that Caesar was "penetrated anally," none of which has any genuine scholarly merit.

These and dozens of other historical figures with no direct or conclusive original source confirmation of their alleged homosexuality are included on the "confirmed" list along side the likes of Ellen Degeneres, Rosie O'Donnell, and Barney Frank.

207 posted on 01/02/2006 12:37:31 PM PST by lqclamar
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