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To: Nick5

Like I wrote, "BM" is champaigne to people who think Gatoraide is a healthfood drink.

You work in the film industry, you are accustomed to the tastes and perspsectives of "a lot of gay people" and you've come to regard Gatoraide as a healthfood drink.

Quite seriously, there are a lot of conservatives (the actual ones) who work in the film industry who also participate on FR and elsewhere on the internet and we don't care for this film for all the reasons so well and previously expressed.

The film ("BM") will and has been playing well before audiences who are compelled by situation and target to predetermine toward being emotionally moved -- as in, reinforced -- by this film.

The film ("BM") will not play well if it even plays at all before other audiences and those other audiences are the majority of movie goers. There may be the mentionable target audience of young teen males who go to ridicule the subject matter but that's the only margin of change I can perceive here, and, perhaps, the other audience who will attend because they're mistaken by what they're going to see onscreen after the grandiose (and misleading) trailers that have now appeared on some cable stations.

In all due respect, "work(ing) in the film industry" and "being around a lot of gays" as you say you do and are is no basis upon which to write a review of this film. It means little other than you are noticably influenced, that I'd place you among that audience I previously described as those who are predetermined to "like" the film and be emotionally reinforced by what you see. It makes your world, your immediate experiences and surroundings, make sense, it reinforces to you that the world is "like the film industry where I work, that the world is sympathetic to this lust and abusive behavior I see before me just like the many gays I work around..."

But the average viewer is going to avoid this film. And they are.


127 posted on 12/29/2005 1:00:23 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: MillerCreek

You and I seem to live on different planets. Having some kind of political affinity for something has no relation to being moved by it, at least not for me. You may disapprove of homosexuality and the media that don't condemn it, but the movie sure as heck isn't crap, it's a great piece of filmmaking by any standard, and I'm not the only person on this thread who feels that way. I just plain don't see anything wrong with homosexuality in any way. The gay people I know lead lives that are no better and no worse, in terms of generosity, productivity, spirituality and their contributions to the community than the straight people I know. Jeffrey Dahmer was homosexual and Stalin was heterosexual. Aaron Copland was homosexual and Mozart was heterosexual. Evil and good, genius and villainy, ugliness and beauty are evenly distributed through all varities of humankind, and even all sides of the political spectrum. I volunteer at a nearby shelter for runaway kids, of which there are many in Los Angeles. Many of the kids are gay, because that's a big part of who gets beaten and abused and forced to hit the road. They are no different from the straight kids who are on the streets because of other kinds of abuse and neglect, trying to rebuild their lives, trying to get jobs and get off the street, but emotionally damaged by the shame and physical pain that have been heaped on them by bigoted, unloving parents. Do you think those kids are sinners? Do you think they CHOSE to be a certain way that would make their parents turn against them so viciously? I don't want to believe and can't imagine that you think their parents were right to beat them and throw them out into the world at age 11, 12, 13. I do know that I've been ZOTTED on this thread for an opinion that has been formed from simple observation of stuff going on in the world around me.

I'm curious: What do you think of the actions of parents who throw their gay kids out on the street?


131 posted on 12/29/2005 9:54:16 AM PST by Nick5
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To: MillerCreek

I should add that when I first posted on this thread I hadn't ever taken the time to read the full list of "isms" the founders of Free Republic stood against. Now that that list has been brought to my attention, I'm not sure that my conservative instincts are of the right variety for this site.


132 posted on 12/29/2005 10:44:24 AM PST by Nick5
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