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To: BlueStateDepression

1) The hurricane didn't actually hit NOLA. It veered east--just imagine the damage if it veered west or hit straight on.

2) So it was the aftermath? So what? The hurricane caused it. This is akin to those idiots who like to say "It wasn't the bullet that killed him, it was his heart stopping." Just a useless attempt at humor.

3) There weren't that many trees left. The point is that a hurricane is essentially a large tornado. By the way, I live just below the start of Tornado Alley. I've seen plenty of tornado damage. You haven't been through the aftermath of Rita. There were over 100 tornadoes caused by Rita. Most damage in hurricanes is caused by wind not water. These two just happened to have massive storm surges that devastated the LA coast.

4) Nearly a dozen refineries were off line for nearly a month between Mississippi to East Texas. A huge number of off shore drilling rigs still haven't started back up. Nobody said a quarter of the nation's oil supply was shut down. It was majorly at risk and was diminished more than an "iota".
Most of my family in Louisiana works in chemical plants or refineries or in one case the National Petroleum Reserve in Hackberry, LA. Explain to me why they had time to go on vacations or long hunting trips while they were supposed to be working. It surely wasn't becasue they took time off.

5) For the first few weeks after Katrina the produce around here was really cheap because the lower Mississippi had taken so much damage that large freight ships couldn't pass securely enough into the gulf for the comfort of bond and insurance companies. All those food exports got dispered around Texas and a few other states. You think that didn'f affect the national economy? By the way:

6) just because you can formulate an argument with flimsy and/or imagined facts doesn't mean that other people will let you dish it out without replying. Your fatalism and desire to denigrate your fellow citizens is astounding. The fact that it got really cold in the WY and ND is regrettable but by all means a "normal event". FEMA showed up because what happened in Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas was a national emergency.


78 posted on 12/14/2005 11:48:24 AM PST by Comstock1 (I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta bubble gum!)
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To: Comstock1

Old decrepit levees and pump infrastructure is what caused this sir not the hurricane. If you wanna go there I suppose we can. Who holds the bag for that? The local PEOPLE do for the votes they cast to elect corrupt local public officials that didn't address these issues for years and years and years. The same local people that scream racism today!

Yes some refineries were offline for a short period of time but there was no interuption in overall supply. Care to say that isn't a fact? I would love to see you post something to the effect that supply itself was deminished. Cuz it wasn't for a whole host of reasons that inclue aid by other nations and reserve supplies here at home that were accessed. You know it and I know it so concede that point please.

Living in Illinois and for a time in northeastern Oklahoma I know a little bit about tornadoes and what they do also. Guess what no FEMA for those issues either. Just alot of people helping one another help each other. See how the GOBMINT didn't play into that equation and how the tax dollar wasn't a factor?

Denigrate? I put it bluntl;y that folks got trapped in a place they were TOLD TO LEAVE FROM and you call that denigration? I point out that they made their OWN choice and now want to blame someone else and you call that denigration?

Denigration: To attack the character or reputation of; speak ill of; defame.

Please sir tell me how the comments I made fit that DEFENITION or retract your statement as inaccurate. What i have said is blunt truth....and often times that blunt truth tends to hurt a bit. That sir, isn't my fault and i hold no blame for that. I simply Said it. I did so because it is factual in nature. Care to point out that what i have said isn;t factual? I would love to see it. Maybe you could start by showing me how the economy stalled after the storms....ooops STILL had growth for the nation didn't we........ooooops rigs are still offline and there is NO supply shortage today and there never was one ....oooops, local issues do not equate the national picture.

You can feel free to reply to anything I say, I look forward to it actually.

How about you start out by qualifying your post that I have denigrated anyone. I eagerly await your reply that you say you will provide.

I do not dispute that what happened was a disaster. I dispute that people caught within it get to blame everyone else. That is where I draw the line and I REPLY. Hurricanes are not something new and the idea that NOLA could flood is not new and damage caused by hurricanes is not a new idea.

Point is that folks were warned and they didn't head that warning. Now those very folks want to blame everyone else but themselves.

Can you provide to me a quote or interview where even ONE person from the 9th ward in NOLA that stayed there blamed themselves for staying? Or are they blaming Bush? Are they blaming racism? Dude, they made a choice to stay there and that is on them....not anyone else. Why should I or anyone else be forced to pay money to these folks for the choices they made?

Why should anyone pay one dime to anyone that didn't pay homeowners insurance? Does this mean that I can drop my bill for insurance and just have the taxpayers pick up the tab????If they didn't OWN then they didn't really LOSE that property at all did they?

I am all for a victim when they are actually a victim of something other than their own choices. It sure seems to me that you attempt to label these folks victims when they indeed had another choice and simply chose not to take an alternate path...and now that things went poorly you will jump on a bandwagon with them and blame everyone else aside from the folks that chose to live there and chose to stay there even though they knew a huge storm was coming.


96 posted on 12/14/2005 12:18:49 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Comstock1

Yes, I know that one plant that produces HEATING FUEL is still offline from Rita. It's going to be weeks before they are online again. So for all of you people in the blizzard, if it wasn't for us here a good lot of you would freeze to death.


134 posted on 12/15/2005 6:07:35 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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