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To: NYer
Remember, they chose to insult Our Blessed Mother on the eve of the Immaculate Conception, and the holy day itself.

I am Catholic myself, and did not see the episode, but I do have a question. Were they insulting Mary, or were they insulting the human beings that try to gain attention for themselves by claiming to see images of Mary in things like grilled cheese sandwiches?

34 posted on 12/09/2005 6:02:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Were they insulting Mary, or were they insulting the human beings that try to gain attention for themselves by claiming to see images of Mary in things like grilled cheese sandwiches?

Bingo. Some people cannot tell the difference.

November 28, 2005

Believers flock to see statue 'weep' tears

111 posted on 12/09/2005 6:29:19 AM PST by george wythe
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To: dfwgator
Were they insulting Mary, or were they insulting the human beings that try to gain attention for themselves by claiming to see images of Mary in things like grilled cheese sandwiches?

It was the latter. Most of us have poked fun at the propensity of a segment of the catholic population who see "miracles" in things that most of us consider quite ordinary. There's a shrine to a tortilla in New Mexico that miraculously has the face of Jesus on it.

If one is inclined to believe in such things, then the episode was certainly offensive. If one believes that these "miracles" are a bit of an embarrassment and rather ridiculous, then the episode was right on target. It had nothing to do with Mary herself, just these so-called miracles.

120 posted on 12/09/2005 6:34:04 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: dfwgator
Were they insulting Mary, or were they insulting the human beings that try to gain attention for themselves by claiming to see images of Mary in things like grilled cheese sandwiches?

The latter.
128 posted on 12/09/2005 6:37:16 AM PST by motzman (no comment required)
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To: dfwgator
Were they insulting Mary, or were they insulting the human beings that try to gain attention for themselves by claiming to see images of Mary in things like grilled cheese sandwiches?

The main point of the show was to insult AA and the attitude that alcoholism is a disease that needs a cure from God instead of, as Stan said, "Just quit drinking." Before AA, Stan's dad drank, but wasn't an alcoholic, just stupid enough to drink and drive once. AA really messed him up by telling him he had a problem that he didn't have, which actually turned him into an alcoholic since he now has a disease, so he can drink all the time and blame it on the disease. Then they told him it could only be cured their way, religiously. This mirrors the Scientology episode, which was mentioned ("I know about cults. I used to lead one.").

A sub point was to make fun of all of those people who flock to be cured by bleeding statues and faces on toast.

An even lower point was how church decisions on what is and isn't a miracle can be strangely arbitrary.

165 posted on 12/09/2005 6:57:39 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: dfwgator

There was definitely an implied insult to Mary, and the Catholic church: the statue did not "appear" to bleed, it spouted blood profusely, with farting noises, into the face of the pope.


385 posted on 12/09/2005 8:49:01 AM PST by LiveBait
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To: dfwgator

I'm Christian but not Catholic and it was definitely an insult to Mary to have her bleeding "OUT OF HER ASS", which they repeated over and over.

The people who replied that it wasn't an insult are flat out wrong.


400 posted on 12/09/2005 8:59:06 AM PST by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, Bama...Banana Rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: dfwgator
Were they insulting Mary, or were they insulting the human beings that try to gain attention for themselves by claiming to see images of Mary in things like grilled cheese sandwiches?

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

456 posted on 12/09/2005 10:04:14 AM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: dfwgator

GIVE ME A BREAK.


474 posted on 12/09/2005 10:31:56 AM PST by cielo
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