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To: IronJack
Besides sniping at the remarkably successful 12-step strategy,

Interesting that you brought that up, since that, rather than the "miracle" seemed to be the storyline. While AA is successful, I thought the protrayal of the dad when he "learned" he had a disease was hilarlious and in many cased right on. First, he confined himself to a wheelchair. Then he went to the "miracle" to be healed of his alcoholism. talking to the others..."What is your disease?" "Cancer." "Well, mine is alcoholism. I have a really bad case." The character assumed no accountability for his problem.

Of course it was extreme. That's how satire is done.

152 posted on 12/09/2005 6:49:12 AM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: TN4Liberty
The character assumed no accountability for his problem.

Which demonstrates only a superficial understanding of the 12-step philosophy, whose first step is "Came to understand that I was powerless, that my life had become unmanageable."

For most alcoholics, it's not enough to just put the cork back in the bottle. It takes a complete change of life. The alcoholic who just stops drinking -- South Park's simplistic "solution" to Stan Marsh's imaginary problem -- is just a dry drunk, a relapse waiting to happen. For the solution to be permanent and effective, there are 11 more steps to go through, and dodging accountability is absolute anathema to that process.

This strikes me as the childish whining of someone who was caught driving drunk and forced to attend AA. Does anyone know if that happened to Parker or Stone, or someone in their inner circle, recently?

160 posted on 12/09/2005 6:54:31 AM PST by IronJack
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To: TN4Liberty
While AA is successful, I thought the portrayal of the dad when he "learned" he had a disease was hilarious and in many cased right on.

That was hilarious. Stan goes to the AA meeting and tells them that "you told my Dad that he has a disease. You can't do that, he's a hypochondriac..."

198 posted on 12/09/2005 7:17:27 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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