so (hopefully) something like this?

Fiu CFN

Rich C CFN

Matt Z CFN

John H CFN

Mark R CFN

Trey Fox

Eric E PFW

Steve TSN

Tom D TSN

Matt H TSN

Todd ESPN

Clucko

The pick is…

Arkron vs. NIU -13

NIU

NIU*

NIU

NIU*

NIU

NIU*

Akron

NIU*

La Tech vs. Fresno St -22

FSU

FSU*

FSU

FSU*

FSU

FSU*

FSU

Louis. -15.5 vs.Conn.

UL*

UL

UL*

UL

UL*

UL

Conn

UL*

Army vs. Navy -6

Navy

Navy*

Navy

Army

Navy

UCLA vs. USC -21

USC*

UCLA

USC*

SDSU vs. Hawaii -3.5

SDSU

UH

Colorado vs. Texas -28

Tex*

Tex

Tex*

Tex

Tex*

Tex

Tex*

Tex

LSU -1.5 vs. Georgia

Ga

LSU

Ga

LSU

Ga

LSU

Ga

LSU

Tulsa vs. UCF -2

Tulsa

UCF

Tulsa

UCF

Tulsa

UCF

Tulsa

UCF

Florida St vs. Va Tech -14

VT

VT*

VT

VT*

VT

West Va -9 vs. USF

USF

WV*

WV

WV*

WV

WV*

USF

WV

MTSU -7 vs. FIU

FIU

MTSU

FIU

MTSU

MTSU*

FIU

MTSU

FIU

SU

140-38

139-39

140-38

139-39

141-37

129-49

138-40

132-46

134-44

132-46

129-49

92-86

132-45

ATS

86-91

88-89

91-86

88-89

84-93

92-85

91-86

81-96

77-100

86-91

75-102

77-100

Thank you BOTH!!

Woohoo new toy to play with :)

Would either of you like to be on the College Football ping list? :)

You've done well, grasshopper.

Now, try and snatch this pebble from my hand.

........or, try to make an open field tackle on Reggie Bush.

You mean this Pebble? You see I am wise in the ways of the Force... :)

The big winners, in my opinion...

yeah I think so....

you wonder if Joe will get an invite to go to Camp David to watch the Texas or USC game with the President? :)

you wonder if Joe will get an invite to go to Camp David to watch the Texas or USC game with the President?

If there were an invite, it would have to be to watch the SC game.

President Bush is not gonna sit next to someone yammering in his ear about how if Texas loses, his team can go to Pasadena.

heh maybe...

I think JoePa has enough class not to bring that up too often though....

I wonder if Tommy Trojan is safely encased in protective armor this week. Back when I attended the school, the FUCLA students would always make an attempt to paint him blue or something. One year they successfully got a Bruin jersey on him, which was kind of cute.

Mostly, it made me think that shoot-to-kill orders were pretty reasonable.

Tommy Cam

Monday, November 16, 1998

More than just a game

PRANKS: Through 60 years, 500 pounds of manure and countless buckets of red and blue paint, the UCLA-USC rivalry has brought out the best (and worst) of the two schools

By Pauline Vu

Daily Bruin Contributor

The football teams who battle for victory on the field are not the only heroes of the UCLA-USC rivalry.

There are the other heroes, the unsung heroes, the heroes who prefer secrecy instead of full glory in the light of day.

They are the pranksters, and they represent UCLA on another level, on another field. They fight not with athletic ability, but with, for example, the guts to cut off Tommy Trojan's arm and re-weld it so that he was sticking his sword up his anal cavity.

Just as exciting as some football games are the intrigue and planning that go into some of the greatest pranks of the rivalry history, pranks that span both sides of battle.

One of the first pranks, and the one with the most long-lasting repercussion, was the theft of the Victory Bell.

In 1939 the UCLA Alumni Association dedicated an old locomotive bell, the Victory Bell, to the student body. At subsequent football games the bell would toll out the number of points UCLA had.

After the 1941 Washington State game, the UCLA Rally Committee was loading the bell into a truck when six Trojans, disguised as Bruins, began to help them.

Suddenly, the six Trojans leapt into the truck and took off with the Victory Bell.

The next year was one of secrecy and vengeance. The Victory Bell was hidden, and its location moved about once every five weeks. At one point it was hidden in the Hollywood Hills, other times down in Santa Ana, and once under a hay stack.

The Bruins retaliated. That year some Bruins masqueraded as Trojans to get close to USC's guarded Tommy Trojan statue. They then kidnapped the unsuspecting guards and threw blue paint on the statue.

That year, Bruin raiding parties systematically searched the USC campus and frat houses for the bell. The USC Homecoming bonfire was lit prematurely. When threats to kidnap USC's student president, Bob McKay, escalated, the two schools decided it was time for a cease-fire.

McKay and Bill Farrer, the UCLA undergraduate president, met and signed a pact that called for the cessation of destructive activities and for the return of the Bruin Victory Bell - under one condition. The bell was to be made a permanent trophy of the annual game between UCLA and USC, with the winner taking the bell home for the year.

Then the Kelps (which reportedly stands for Knights Earls Lords Potentates Sultans), a men's spirit organization that was to conduct some of UCLA's most ingenious pranks for the next decade, was created in 1948 by Ed Hummel. One of their first pranks came during USC's 1953 Homecoming parade.

"USC used to have their Homecoming parade on Wilshire, in the hoity-toity section of L.A. What the Kelps did was smuggle their float into the parade," said Cadillac McNally, a later member of the Kelps during the early 1960s. "They re-routed the parade into a dead-end street."

In 1958, the Kelps instrumented a prank that has found its way into Bruin lore and campus tour speeches.

Unable to physically reach a Tommy Trojan guarded by over 100 students, the Kelps rented a helicopter and proceeded to drop 500 pounds of manure on the statue.

There is still a debate today, however, whether or not the plan backfired.

Several Kelps who participated in the prank were quoted in Neil Steinberg's book, "If At All Possible, Involve A Cow: The Book of College Pranks," as saying the backdraft blew the manure back in their faces.

"There is a wash of air that blows much of what you throw out of a helicopter back at you. We were covered with the stuff. How much landed I do not know," said Irv Sepkowitz, who masterminded the plan, in the book.

However, McNally is adamant that that sort of talk is merely a USC scheme.

"That's what 'SC would like you to think. (The backdraft) can't happen. When you open a helicopter door, things get sucked out, not blown back in," he said.

USC has had its own share of clever pranks. In 1957, a USC student decided to sabotage the card stunts that the Bruin fans were famous for. He joined the UCLA Rally Committee, attending the weekly meetings with dedication, while posing as a UCLA student.

The night before the football game, he rearranged some of the cards to be placed in the corner of the student section. The next day, when the first card stunt was flashed, a "USC" in bright red and gold lettering stood conspicuously in one corner.

The card trick leader, stunned, quickly called to change to the next stunt - to no avail. The infiltrator had fixed every stunt to display "USC."

For the entire eight-minute presentation, throughout every stunt, the "USC" flashed in the corner, eliciting cheers across the stadium from USC fans.

The next year, 1958, the Trojans came up with another inventive prank.

A few days before the game issue of the Daily Bruin was released, some USC students sneaked into the print shop where The Bruin was printed, obtained copies of the stories in the issue, and created a bogus edition of the newspaper.

Then they kidnapped the truck driver who was about to deliver the genuine editions of the Daily Bruin and replaced them with the illegitimate ones.

The stories were the same, but the tone was entirely different.

"I can't see any hope for our team," said UCLA coach George Dickerson in the faux paper.

"I'd feel much better about our chances against those terrific Trojans if we had a couple of players who understood the game," one player added.

The bogus editions of both newspapers were to continue, off and on, well into the late 1980s.

The Thursday before the 1988 game, the "Daily Bruin" ran a headline that read, "Presidential Candidates Dukakis, Paul agree: UCLA is for losers." There was also an article about Hustler publisher Larry Flint receiving "UCLA Media Man of the Year" honors.

The next day the "Daily Trojan" ran a more realistic headline with "USC celebrates 100th year of academik excellence" along with an article in the Sports section about the instrumental role the USC song girls, lead by captain Cheryl Sleezum, played in football recruiting at USC.

One of the last major pranks played in recent years was in 1989 when USC students released hundreds of chirping crickets in Powell Library. Two paper signs taped to the wall read:

"Hope you enjoy studying today, Bruins. USC beat UCLA. Signed, the Trojan Boys."

And then there are the not-quite-successful pranks.

McNally recalled that in 1962, five members of the Trojan Knights came to the UCLA campus during "Beat 'SC Week" to distribute leaflets saying that the Kelps organization was made up of Bruins too stupid to play football. The Trojan Knights also planned to conduct other acts of mayhem.

They were caught by the Kelps, however, who were on round-the-clock patrol of the campus.

"We caught them by Royce Hall and took them to the Fiji House for interrogation, to see if they knew how to spell, if they knew how to add, what their plans were," said McNally, who came in time to see the interrogation.

The Kelps shaved a "UCLA" on the heads of the Trojan Knights, with at least one letter on each head. They shaved their eyebrows as well and painted their faces blue. Then they fed them breakfast and tied them to the flag pole for a pep rally. The campus police eventually rescued the Knights.

In 1979, though, it was the Bruins' turn to be caught. when the LAPD found half a dozen Bruins trying to saw the head off Tommy Trojan. Eight years later, a police helicopter spotted 13 USC students attempting to convert the letters of the "Hollywood" sign into "USC."

There were also years when the rivalry spilled into violence and controversy.

In 1966, a riot ensued on the UCLA campus after USC was chosen over UCLA to go to the Rose Bowl by the Pac-8, despite the fact that UCLA had a higher standing.

Hundreds of students marched into Westwood and onto the 405 freeway. The mob of students stopped traffic for three hours on Westwood Boulevard. One car with a USC sticker was spotted and forced to stop. Although its owner escaped harm, the car didn't. The trunk was pounded in and the wires ripped out of the engine.

A controversy erupted in 1982 when UCLA moved from the Coliseum to the Rose Bowl. At the Coliseum, even when the Bruins supposedly had home field advantage, USC's Trojan horse, Traveler IV, would make rounds around the field whenever the Trojans scored a touchdown.

A movement was started to stop Traveler from being allowed into the Rose Bowl. Hundreds of letters poured into the Daily Bruin and an anonymous ad was placed in the newspaper urging students to ban the horse from their new stadium.

Ultimately, however, the ruling was made: Traveler would be allowed to come to the Rose Bowl.

So one UCLA student decided that if USC could have a horse in the stadium, so should the Bruins. He borrowed a Clydesdale horse from the Anheuser-Busch Company, and during the game, whenever the Bruins scored a touchdown, Joe Bruin came riding out around the stadium on a horse of his own.

In recent years, there have been fewer pranks and none on a large scale, like some of the pranks of yore. Jack Powazek, the assistant vice-chancellor for facilities management, recalled that a few years ago four Trojans came over to UCLA and caused $5,000 worth of damage with spray cans.

The Trojans were caught and forced to pay the money it took to clean it up.

"Graffiti is a serious crime. If people are caught, we will pursue them to the fullest. Putting paint on things and sandblasting the paint off costs money to do that," Powazek said.

However, he stressed, that was an atypical year. Damage is not normally that great.

Despite this, many Bruins and former Bruins look fondly upon the many rivalry pranks that have spanned the decades.

"We wanted to have more fun than those dorks at 'SC. And if you can't be on the field, this was one way you could participate," McNally said.

Aw, fun times.

We'll be watching tomorrow.

Let's GO...MOUNTAINEERS..

WVU to the SUGAR Bowl.

I'm down for Colorado and UCLA..gotta love all those points...

UCLA I can see, but I don't know about Colorado.

I think this is a different Texas team. Why is that? Because they didn't play worth a crap last week yet they STILL scored 40....

Thanks for the "SFN picks" ping.

SFN?

:)

what's that mean?

No idea :)

Got quite a bit of work to do today. Don't know if I'll be able to watch much TV :(

yeah...

I actually have the house all to myself, the leaves have been raked, I have no Xmas shopping to do anymore....im good :)

Now you know why I don't bet, ever...(g)