Posted on 11/12/2005 9:33:29 PM PST by abt87
With the riots going on in Paris right now, the problem rests in the fact that there is economic unrests and demographic changes that have caused problems in France. However, the French are not even trying to assimilate these Muslim youths who are of North African descendant. Would it surprise anyone here if similar problem start happening with Hispanics in our country? We have fringe groups like Aztlan and La Raza that want break off the Southwest and "liberate" it in the name of Mexico and "Aztec Power!" (to paraphrase "white power!" if you will.) Is it not unimaginable for millions of unassimilated and unemployed Hispanic youths taking their grievences of economic hardship out on people? Is it not unimaginable that these extremist groups may try to take on American versions of Hamas? For all we know, if illegal immigration continues with a steady stream, and Mexican-Americans are not learning English, they will end up living in ghettoes just as segregated as the Algerians and Tunisians in Paris. Can you picture a suicide bomber under the banner of "¡liberación por Aztlan!" blowing himself up in Hollywood at the 2026 Oscars?
More bad logic.
What you said is untrue. Typically.
Are you twelve years old? Sheesh.
"More bad logic.
What you said is untrue. Typically."
Bad logic?
What a JOKE. You didn't respond by showing that you support closing the borders - you linked to a post of mine on an unrelated topic. Red herring.
You haven't proven anything I've said to be untrue, and you never read the rest of the thread you quoted, either.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1521108/posts?page=58#58
What I said is typically untrue?
Them's fightin' words.
To recap - I claimed that you never saw a plan to close the border that you liked. Rather than respond that I was wrong, that in fact you do support closing the border, you responded with a link to a rebuttal to an unrelated post of mine, while ignoring my response to that unrelated thread.
Then you accused me of being dishonest... I will refrain from expressing the words that describe you, as I don't want to be reprimanded by the AM. You already live in an open-borders fantasy world... so use your active imagination.
Not only that, you didn't respond to my questions in response to your calling the post "fear mongering."
"It's far from ridiculous or fear mongering. Hint, which religion is aggressively recruiting in prisons? Does the name Jose Padilla ring a bell? Do you know what is going on in South America in the tri-border region with Hizballah and Iranian intelligence? There's a nexus between these things, and it ain't pretty."
I guess that's all news to you, yet you continue to bury your head in the sand.
How about it - do you support closing the borders as a means of stemming illegal immigration? Or do you think that just making them all legal via a "guest worker program" is a way to end the illegal immigration... much like legalizing murder, rape, and robbery would fix the crime statistics?
adam_az:There's a nexus between these things, and it ain't pretty.
prnd21: "These things" being your ears?
You daft fool, do you even know what the word nexus means? Hint, it's a link or connection. Yes there is a nexus between my ears, it's called a brain. Of course, that's not what you meant. Ignorance is ugly.
Three post whine-out...nice.
Red herring, namecalling, ignorance of the language, and trolling... nice.
You NEVER have advocated closing the border. You always advocate just making illegals legal, which is tantamount to ending the crime of rape by legalizing it.
here is an example!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1486076/posts?page=14#14
To: cripplecreek
I just want the law obeyed.
Who doesn't?
Hence, "legal guest workers".
14 posted on 09/16/2005 6:02:25 PM MDT by PRND21
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That is the first communication between us on this thread. It's false. Quit whining.
"That is the first communication between us on this thread. It's false. Quit whining."
It's 100% true. Your idea of border restrictions is to let everyone in legally. In other words, erase the border. Thus, you're the open borders lobby.
You called me dishonest, when it is you being dishonest.
You reply with red herrings.
You imply I am empty between the ears but don't even use the correct word, out of ignorance I suppose.
Then, when I point these things out, I'm whining?
Don't spill any of that on your skirt.
Still false, no matter how loudly and repeatedly you whine.
Link it or shutup, liar. Sheesh.
"Still false, no matter how loudly and repeatedly you whine.
Link it or shutup, liar. Sheesh."
#1, will you lay off the rudeness and ad hominem?
#2, I already did, a few posts back. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1521108/posts?page=68#68
I went through many of your posts and never found you advocating any policy of closing the border - you only criticize the plans which are presented. I've never even see you categorically support the GOAL! The only goal you support is to legalize ever Jorge Jose and Jesus who can sneak across our border, followed by just letting them all came across legally, no sneaking required.
I've asked you a number of questions in this thread, which you haven't answered, while I've provided the links you've asked for. I'll let the other readers of this thread decide.
See your first post to me on this thread, hypocrite.
2, I already did, a few posts back
Another Lie.
Where did I say, " ...let everyone in legally. In other words, erase the border.?
A guest worker program, which Tancredo, Bush, and I support does not erase the border or let everyone in.
"A guest worker program, which Tancredo, Bush, and I support does not erase the border or let everyone in."
You know damn well that the Bush and Tancredo plan are not even close. Stop playing with words.
You didn't say it in precisely those words, but that's what I've seen you say... over and over.
Like Bush, you want the border open to "guest workers" without closing the border FIRST, which is what the Tancredo plan calls for.
Lie, hypocrite, etc. lay off the ad hominem! You said it. Suck it up.
Personally, I'd kinda like that.
That explains the lack of link? You're a mess.
You know damn well that the Bush and Tancredo plan are not even close. Stop playing with words.
Wrong again! From Tommy's web site-"The Tancredo bill creates a guest-worker program"..
I'm not playing with words, but you sure play with the truth.
"Wrong again! From Tommy's web site-"The Tancredo bill creates a guest-worker program.... I'm not playing with words, but you sure play with the truth."
You damn sure are - Tancredo's HR 3333 is VERY different than what Bush is supporting. That's why I've seen you on the anti-Tancredo threads.
You might as well be a Dem. Whatever you accuse your opponent of is exactly what you yourself are doing.
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