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11-12-05 | tinfoil hat troll

Posted on 11/12/2005 11:32:57 AM PST by marketz

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Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC

By Elaine Jarvik Deseret Morning News The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor. In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones. In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html. Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says. Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations. "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes. As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation." Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The official explanation — that fires caused structural damage that caused the buildings to collapse — can't be backed up by either testing or history, he says. Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and therefore is not 'junk science.' " In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these arguments: • The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled demolition" — and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here, along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."

• No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.

• WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors — and intact steel support columns — the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

• Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.

• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding." Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk at BYU in September. Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at Ground Zero.

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The truth is gaining momentum
1 posted on 11/12/2005 11:32:59 AM PST by marketz
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To: marketz

Wow, a 6 year sleeper troll. I wonder if that is a record?


2 posted on 11/12/2005 11:35:32 AM PST by sharkhawk (Play me a dirge matey)
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To: marketz

You've got to be joking with this crap.


3 posted on 11/12/2005 11:35:43 AM PST by dighton
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To: marketz

Um... the steel wasn't melted. It was weakened by the heat, and the trusses collapsed as a result of that. When one collapses, additional stress is put on the remaining ones.

The explosions? That would be each floor, pancaking on top of one another as the towers collapsed.

What you offer is nothing but conspiracy. The truth is already there.


4 posted on 11/12/2005 11:36:14 AM PST by oolatec
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To: marketz
In before the..


5 posted on 11/12/2005 11:36:46 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: marketz
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6 posted on 11/12/2005 11:36:57 AM PST by andyandval
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To: marketz
1. What are you smoking?
2. Loosen up the tinfoil hat it is cutting off circulation.
3. In ref: #1....what in the heck smells like pine sol?
7 posted on 11/12/2005 11:37:04 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: marketz

Un efing beleivable! Two jets, piloted by moose-limbs flying at over 500 miles per hour and loaded with fuel crashed into two buildings deliberately. That no other building has collapsed in this manner means nothing more than that this was the first time in human history that two jets, piloted by mosse-limbs flying at over 500 miles per hour and loaded with fuel crashed into two buildings deliberately. End of efing story.


8 posted on 11/12/2005 11:37:49 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: marketz

troll


9 posted on 11/12/2005 11:37:49 AM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED...)
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To: marketz

Is this Michael MOOer? Yer movie was a pile of crap as bad as this article.


10 posted on 11/12/2005 11:38:00 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: King Prout; Darksheare
This one is interesting.. trying to re-write history.
11 posted on 11/12/2005 11:38:15 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: marketz

What truth?


12 posted on 11/12/2005 11:38:31 AM PST by perfect stranger
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To: marketz
Muslims are (probably) not to blame

When I read this he lost all credibility with me.

13 posted on 11/12/2005 11:38:34 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: marketz; Admin Moderator

Troll in the wire.


14 posted on 11/12/2005 11:38:46 AM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick Brigade, Go Steele)
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To: marketz

There was a show on TV early in the 90s before the first bombing of the World Trade Center which told about its construction. I remember that the building was changed halfway through to be certain that the tall buildings would fail straight down so as to not threaten the surrounding buildings.


15 posted on 11/12/2005 11:38:59 AM PST by PaxMacian
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To: marketz

Amazing how those planes hit the exact spot where the explosives were pre-positioned. Those terrorists were more talented pilots than previously thought, eh what?


16 posted on 11/12/2005 11:39:14 AM PST by shezza (Truth? You can't handle the truth.)
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To: Americanwolf
Tin Foil Hat Study
17 posted on 11/12/2005 11:39:32 AM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED...)
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To: marketz

Why is it the "truth" never leaves any trace evidence or stands up to much inquiry?


18 posted on 11/12/2005 11:39:32 AM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: marketz

"You will pay the price for your lack of sentience!"

Really, someone should beat you with an iron bar for peddling this paranoid rubbish, as it exploits the honoured dead.

Ivan

19 posted on 11/12/2005 11:39:57 AM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: marketz; Admin Moderator
Welcome to Free Republic.

I see you've posted 4 times in the last 5 years.

Man of few words?

20 posted on 11/12/2005 11:40:07 AM PST by FreedomFarmer (Some settling of consonants may have occurred during shipping.)
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