France Burns and We are Fools to Cheer

4 Nov 05 | self

[Eric in the Ozarks]

They hate the West. Why are they here ?

[rlmorel]

Perhaps the attitude stems from the son of a bitchery the French government perpetrated against us in the run up to the war, which made things harder for us and perhaps cost the lives of some of our men.

It might have something to do with the French supplying the Hussein regime with hard currency and weaponry during the embargo.

Or perhaps it was the indignation of many Americans who see the white crosses at the Cemetery in Normandy, and know that because of the sacrifice of those men lying in repose there, that the French can enjoy coffee at their sidewalk cafes without the annoying sound of jackboots.

I suggest the attitude of many Americans emanates less from the spectacle of riots in that country, but more from the ironic exercise of seeing the French government hoisted on its own petard.

There are a lot of good, decent people in France. However, the American reservoir of goodwill towards that country in general has been drained quite a bit by the actions of their leadership.

[Randy Larsen]

We can't help them if they won't help themselves!

[jb6]

It's sir. And thank you. So many are blinded by the pettiness and snearing and fail to see that all they do is play to the Islamics and sacrifice their own future as well.

[caryatid]

My sentiments exactly!

It is time for the First Crusade of The New Millenium.

[1rudeboy]

Your point remains unclear. Are you righting us off the same way you are doing France?

[1rudeboy]

righting=writing

[hershey]

Goodness, yes. If the Dutch thought France was a good place to hang their hat for a while, they don't think so now!

[bnelson44]

These folks aren't rioting because they hate the West. They are rioting because they want more money.

[thoughtomator]

At some point they have to be accountable for their actions. Snickering is about as benevolent as we can be right now, since what they really deserve is our wrath.

[Mount Athos]

This posting of yours was badly needed, I feel the same way. I also agree with other that this is a wake up call for europe, a warning of what is coming on a wider scale.

This will force changes in how Europe views the conflicts in Israel and even Serbia, it will affect talks with Turkey to join the EU, it will affect all sorts of policies and perspectives in a good way. Will Europe sanction the UN forcably splitting Kosovo from Serbia, when muslim birth rates will inevitably result in the same cleaving result in their own countries? Will Europe show the same arrogance in condemning the tough choices Israel needs to make in handling their violent muslim populations, when now they will have to make the same choices? How can crazy European immigration policies persist in light of the rioting in several countries? However terrible facing these problems is today, it would have been 100 times worse if it had happened 20 years from now instead.

I think one of the best things we can do is to teach each other (and the French) the true lessons of history.

You are right that we would be fools to simply keep our hands on our hips, saying I told you so, when disasters in our own country may not be far behind.

Isn't it amazing to see the Charles De Gaule flyer someone posted above, it applies perfectly today word for word as written in WWII.

[Americanwolf]

Carolyn,

I am feared you are correct...WW3 or 4.. I lost count.. was started about 13 years ago with GW1..issues have been simmering since then....Some south American countries perceive us as weak so do some Asian countries... I can honestly see them trying something.. thinking that the immigration that has occurred in the past 20 years has diluted the fight out of us... Personally I think that would be a mistaken assumption on their part, but possible.. time will tell.

[Temple Owl]

Roger that! We have a plan. We will rendezvous at Aqaba at 1800 hours. Let's set our watches. Also keep an eye out for El Cid. We can really use him.

[Texas Eagle]

We should not snicker, we should not cheer, we should not jab them in the ribs.

The hell we shouldn't.

[Revolting cat!]

What was it paved with good intentions? Your post, with which I wholeheartedly agree, only provoked more jeers, irrational hatred, and more uninformed wishful thinking: Examples:

"While they do nothing they deserve no sympathy"

Unlike we, responding to the mayhem in New Orleans?

Or:

"Let them try. We will destroy them."

New Orleans?

Or:

"What percent of our population hates America, and which ones would actually do this same thing."

Again, (yes) New Orleans? Los Angeles?

It's not France, it's the Western Civilization that's under attack. It's coming to your neighbourhood soon, while the politicians fiddle and worry about re-election, and the voters worry about having the gummint pay for their bicycle paths.

[RocketJsqurl]

France will eventually succumb to the Islamofacist and become their allies just like the Vichay Government did during WWII.
The end game will come when the US finally wakes up , takes the gloves off and mass bombs or Nukes civilian centers Mecca , Medina ,Damascus to start.God has led the way and shown the enemey what a Nuke can do by causing an earthquake in Pakistan. 100,000 dead and 2 million homeless. Only then will the enemy realize it is useless to wage war and surrender. Lets follow his lead.
Failure to do so will be the end of us.

[Popman]

Its result has been stated with haughty arrogance by Tariq Ramadan, professor of Islamic studies at the University of Fribourg in Switzerland and a grandson of Hasan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. Ramadan proposes through his teachings and writings that Muslims in the West should conduct themselves not as hyphenated citizens seeking to live by “common values” but as though they were already living in a Muslim-majority society and were exempt on that account from having to make concessions to the faith of others. Muslims in non-Muslim countries should feel themselves entitled to live on their own terms—while, under the terms of Western liberal tolerance, society as a whole should feel obliged to respect that choice.

[AntiGuv]

I really don't think this is that big a deal. If anything, it might serve a wake up call to the Europeans about what they've welcomed into their midst. However, if the minarets do go up at Chartres and Notre Dame, we'll know the downfall of Western civilization is inevitably at hand..

[clee1]

No... In the final analysis, while we have adopted much of France's socialistic tendencies, we STILL have the 2nd Amendment and a large percentage of the population willing to fight and die to defend our property and our way of life.

France lost that spirit long ago.

[kcar]

We could not possibly even think of helping the French this time. A third such rescue would be utterly incomprehensible. They'd hate us intensely for an eternity-cubed.