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Posted on 11/04/2005 2:20:13 PM PST by doodad

Guitar gods and demi-gods I need freeper advice. A small to medium sized amp is needed to allow proper practice of a vintage tele and new Gibson LP. I have a budget of $1000 'cause the wife says so.

So I am soliciting advice. Tube or SS? Modelling or bare bones (I have stomp boxes)? New or vintage?

Thanks, doodad


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: amp; fender; guitar; marshall; randall; speaker; tube; vox; watt

1 posted on 11/04/2005 2:20:13 PM PST by doodad
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To: doodad

I would recommend a Peavey Classic 30. It's a tube amp and has a great warm sound, and it's only about $350 (at least it was when I bought mine in 1998).


2 posted on 11/04/2005 2:21:47 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: doodad

fender twin reverb, ebay 500-1000, new 1200 or so


3 posted on 11/04/2005 2:24:26 PM PST by ezo4
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To: travlnmn41

I assume single speaker and what wattage? What do you like about it and what do you not like? I had a Peavey once upon a time. The price is right, is it single channel no frills?


4 posted on 11/04/2005 2:24:55 PM PST by doodad
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To: doodad
I have a 75 watt line 6 spider. It has a bunch of models, SS, efffects, sounds great clean and dirty, & is readily available. 300$ more or less. Big enough to gig, small enough to transport.

Here is a page with a few tunes I have done on this amp.


Kill A Commie For Mommie
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

5 posted on 11/04/2005 2:26:34 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Always use fresh macaroni.... If the box rattles,.... throw it away."--- Kent Brockman)
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To: ezoeni

What do you think about the reissue with the single speaker? That is the one that really has my eye. I was looking at the vox AD series, but I am leery of the "tech."


6 posted on 11/04/2005 2:26:48 PM PST by doodad
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To: travlnmn41; doodad
Not a bad recommendation.

I prefer tube amps by far.

My favorite amp is the Fender Twin.

7 posted on 11/04/2005 2:26:49 PM PST by lormand (Dead people vote DemocRAT)
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To: doodad
STIHL

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8 posted on 11/04/2005 2:31:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I have looked at those and the Randalls and the vox and just can't decide what to make of them. My tele seems to hate most of the sounds and the Gibson likes them.


9 posted on 11/04/2005 2:32:24 PM PST by doodad
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To: cripplecreek

Well, I do have a cherry tree that needs to come down. I could play a nice riff as it fell.


10 posted on 11/04/2005 2:33:44 PM PST by doodad
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To: doodad

I'd say Peavey, maybe Fender. If you're talking small to medium, you shouldn't have to spend more than $400, maybe $700 at the most. That'll be plenty, and it'll hurt your ears if needed.


11 posted on 11/04/2005 2:48:53 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. Semper Fi)
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To: doodad

I've got a Fender Princeton 112 Plus for pretty much the same purpose, and I'm very happy with it. IIRC it's about $200-300. Give it a go and save yourself some cash.


12 posted on 11/04/2005 2:56:51 PM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: doodad
Although I own and use a Fender Cyber twin, I recently got an opportunity to jam with some guys that were running a Crate 1X12 and a Marshall 1X12. Don't know the exact models. Both were in the 50w range. Both were SS. For smaller venues either would be plenty loud.

The Marshall sounded vaguely tinny at all volumes. The Crate sounded solid and like a Fender Blues Deluxe (but at probably 2/3 he price).

I guess you have to guage what you plan to use it for - if everyone else is playing through Marshall stacks, you're fooling yourself if you don't have a Fender Twin at the very least.

The Cyber Twin is rated at 100w and I run it through a 4X12 cab. I like it because it is predictable at any volume, hugely versatile, and, being a head unit, doesn't break my back every time i move it ;'}

Best bet (and half the fun) is to test drive the crap outta them!
13 posted on 11/04/2005 3:06:10 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: rockrr

I looked at the cybertwin and I guess it was brief because I did not know it was a head. Can you practice just through it? I apologize it that is a dumb question; I never have gigged and all my experience is garage bands with combo amps.


14 posted on 11/04/2005 3:09:00 PM PST by doodad
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To: rockrr

Well, looked at the price and flinched. As I say no gigging in my future, so just basement filling sound at sub 1k price is my current desire.


15 posted on 11/04/2005 3:18:09 PM PST by doodad
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To: doodad
I'm new to amplified guitars, but you might be interested in what I do: I use my computer as a customizable amp.

I do this with "Garage Band" - a program that comes bundled with all new Macs. It is essentially a mult-track recorder and sequencer, but done with that great Apple ease-of-use and style. (Ah, as easy to use as a mult-track recorder and sequencer gets....)

First I plug my guitar into my Mac. If your guitar puts out a strong enough (but not overpowering) signal, you can plug into the mic-jack, or even line-in. I use a Presonus Firebox audio interface, which has a good pre-amp built into it.

You then specify in Garage Band that this instrument is the input device for a track, and then specify the effects to be applied to this track. These effects include simulations of different guitar amps, as well as all the tweaking controls for each model.

The effects are applied in real-time, with the end result piped out the computer speaker (or headphones). It's a blast to jam away on an acoustic with a pick-up, and have a big-metal sound come pouring out with every strum!

Don't like the amp simulation on that perfect lick you just laid down? Simply change the effect preferences for your track - the old effects get erased, and the new effects get applied. At least 4 amps are included in Garage Band, and more are available as 3rd party add-ons.

So, with this setup, I can jam away, trying all different (virtual) kinds of amplifiers & settings, and even just listen to it through headphones when I don't want to bother the neighbors.

16 posted on 11/04/2005 3:30:12 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian
If your guitar puts out a strong enough (but not overpowering) signal, you can plug into the mic-jack, or even line-in.

Don't electric guitars need a DC voltage supplied on the input? The older Macintosh computers had an audio input jack with a voltage output on one of the pins (so it could be used either as a line-in [not using the voltage output] or electret microphone input [using the voltage output]. No idea what current ones do.

17 posted on 11/04/2005 6:01:15 PM PST by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: doodad

Im not to much on the newer models. I have two classic ftr's with dual speakers. Ive been out of the game with all the new stuff these days.


18 posted on 11/04/2005 6:56:49 PM PST by ezo4
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To: doodad

Yes, it's a single speaker -- a 12-inch Sheffield speaker. Puts out 30 watts and is plenty loud for practicing and playing in a club. The manual has a few illustrations that show the settings for different sounds -- rock, blues, country, etc. That's pretty helpful in trying to get a good mix of pre and post amp. This amp is perfect for the stuff I like to play -- classic rock, blues and funk.


19 posted on 11/07/2005 7:12:30 AM PST by travlnmn41
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