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Bump ping. I just wanted to do that.

Actually in France, there's no need to even attempt to disguise this. They all KNOW that this is a battle between disenfranchised and isolated Muslim youth, mostly of Northern African origin (Algeria).

There's a real crisis there on the separation of society. And it isn't entirely economic. It's also cultural as the Muslims do not embrace European society and vice versa.

It's very bad. Unlike the suburbs here, the suburbs there are areas to quarantine the poor Muslim. And they are not liking the indictment which is a life sentence. They do not act like conservative Muslims either.

Now about Paris. So beautiful. In all my trips there, nothing but a pure pleasure. None of the anti-Americanism I've heard about and my French is very bad. (One time a woman asked me for directions in French. Had no choice but to tell her I was from New York.)

France is no where near living up to its credo: liberty, equality, fraternity.
It has however been replaced by socialism, political correctness and corruption.

They are in deep trouble. But they do have a strong element that will not roll over to this element.

This Hungarian leader who may become the National leader is their only hope.

France is no where near living up to its credo: liberty, equality, fraternity...actually my "bump" was intended to keep this thread and the dynamite quote which led it off close at hand - Fox News tonight had some clips from the likes of Hillary and Teddy warning of Saddam's possession and use of WMD - I wish the 'pubs would put together a compilation of these including Clinton's quoted here and buy time all over TV to have them played - might put an end to the "Bush lied" BS...

As for France, it seems to me it's a good example of style over substance - beautiful cities, lovely music, fantastic food and fashion, wonderful intellectual philosophizing - but shocking insensitivity and indifference at best to essential human values and aspirations - starting at least as far back as the guillotining of tens of thousands, through the bloody history of their attempts at colonization, including their collusion in the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Rwanda, through the deaths of almost ten thousand elderly a few summers ago in Paris and the brewing trouble with their Muslim population, its almost as though the French love of the finer things in life mesmerizes them into numbness when it comes to reverence for life itself....

Still, my wife spent some time in Paris forty years ago and agrees it's a great city - to visit maybe, but I wouldn't want to live there.....