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My church feels the same way as yours, and we don't turn anyone away, who is living a life of sin, either. After all, Christ did the same.

BUT.................

That does NOT mean that it is ok to continue to do sin blatantly(as in sexual promiscuity), and claim to lead a Christian life. After all, Christ would forgive someone of their sins and THEN-- say "go and sin no more". Therefore, when someone DOES change, they are then expected to live a life commiserate to that of Christ. Otherwise, what is the difference, if a person does NOT change?

And YES-- I did say, that I do not get along well with women who espouse the modern, valueless lifestyle, like the one in the article, and who only want sex or money . I am not the only guy that feels that way here. I did NOT say that I would not get together with someone who HAD lived that way, and had changed, however.

That does NOT mean that it is ok to continue to do sin blatantly(as in sexual promiscuity), and claim to lead a Christian life. After all, Christ would forgive someone of their sins and THEN-- say "go and sin no more". Therefore, when someone DOES change, they are then expected to live a life commiserate to that of Christ. Otherwise, what is the difference, if a person does NOT change?

I look at it this way too. I always believed in the power of reform and redemption. We are all sinners and there are times all of us stumble at times. It is like getting in a car accidint, you need to get behind that wheel again really soon as you get back on the road to Christ and good living. I think a problem that some people of faith do have and I think they are in error on this part is some of them would take a look at someone who lives a lifestyle of sin or has done so in the past and call them a "loser" and whatever else and see no redemption there. This is wrong, plus the rough rhetoric would drive that person away, if he or she is living a life of terrible sin instead of helping them. This helps no one, espeically the person driven off who now feels even more embittered.

And YES-- I did say, that I do not get along well with women who espouse the modern, valueless lifestyle, like the one in the article, and who only want sex or money . I am not the only guy that feels that way here. I did NOT say that I would not get together with someone who HAD lived that way, and had changed, however.

Again, I'm with ya. If a girl has changed and accepted Christ and the good life, I have no problem if she had such a terrible past. I still would like her to be honest with me about it, first relationships for life ought to be based on honest of both parties as well if there are problems from the past that crop up, we can deal with them together. The worst feeling in the world is if something from a terrible past comes up and the person cannot confide in the other for fear of losing them. If the love and commitment is true, they would battle these skeletons from the closet together.

Unfortunatly there are few/some who will not change for whatever reason. All we can do is leave them be and hopefully they will come to God on their own free will. The pointing of fingers at the drop of a hat is not the way to go and if one does it often, there will be a time twhere 4 or 5 fingers can be pointing back.