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MINIX 3.0 Released
OS News ^ | 2005-10-24 10:11:57 UTC | Thom Holwerda

Posted on 10/27/2005 8:49:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: N3WBI3

BSD is currently considered completely legal and free, from my understanding. If having something for free is all people care about, why they can't use it instead of all these questionable foreign clones I'll never understand.


41 posted on 10/27/2005 8:18:16 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I'm gonna watch this $100 laptop story over the next 18 months. I want one. They look like a sharp little tool.


42 posted on 10/27/2005 8:24:03 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Operating System – Windows CE 5.0

I thought these cheap laptops were going to be Lunix based? Has that already been scrapped?

43 posted on 10/27/2005 8:30:48 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
BSD is currently considered completely legal and free, from my understanding.

Yes and it had to go through a legal battle to get that status. It was found to be an acceptable derivation.

why they can't use it instead of all these questionable foreign clones I'll never understand.

Because supporting capitalism and consumer choice might sometimes mean people make choice with which you are not comfortable. I use Linux because it has a better application base than BSD and is the recommended platform for Oracle, and other apps I use. I have to buy expensive hardware for apple (though they are getting better), and SUN will have to understand that their indecisiveness in the early part of this decade greatly hurt the adoption of Solaris on the x86 platform. I think a good question is if Linux proved my company which employees Americans a better TCO than Sun or Apple why should I not use it?

44 posted on 10/27/2005 8:40:41 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle

Depends who you ask MIT say Linux (though Minix might be a better choice) and AMD says CE. Maybe AMD is going to see their own line running CE.


45 posted on 10/27/2005 8:41:37 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

Because Sun and Apple and SCO are longtime US-born products that are being undercut by the possibly illegal foreign-born clone Lunix. It also is completely released under the GPL license developed by radical leftist Richard Stallman, and has a far larger following of whackos than even Apple. Sun and Apple are resurging though, hopefully SCO will as well.


46 posted on 10/27/2005 8:59:10 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3
Maybe AMD is going to see their own line running CE.

Instant on/off is a very compelling feature, I have 3 "handheld pc's" (H/PC) myself. Run the terminal server client and the sky's the limit.

47 posted on 10/27/2005 9:03:32 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Because Sun and Apple and SCO are longtime US-born products that are being undercut by the possibly illegal foreign-born clone Lunix.

Oh I cant wait until this SCO ordeal is over... then we can have these conversations without leading inflammatory language as "possibly illegal foreign-born clone Lunix". Sun nor apple meets my needs and RedHat (An American Company) Does.

and has a far larger following of whackos than even Apple.

Ill remind you Al 'I invented the Internet' and 'The internal combustion engine is the most evil thing ever invented' Gore sits on the board of Apple not RedHat

hopefully SCO will as well.

SCO uses GPL licensed products for their windows file serving, web management, network mapping software and many other features. Just goes to show you even the most rabidly anti GPL company can use Opensource software to make money.

48 posted on 10/27/2005 9:11:09 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
Sun nor apple meets my needs

Such as? Let me guess, you'll claim you're one of the 0.001 percent of people that actually have the need AND capability to openly tinker with your O/S source code. If that's it, give us some examples, including the code. I mean it's open source, right?

49 posted on 10/27/2005 9:15:42 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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1) I want to run it on x86 Hardware: That nixes apple..

2) I want to use Oracles recommended os for distributed clusters: That nixes Solaris

3) I want an OS that does not tie my company to one vendor (that nixes both)..

50 posted on 10/27/2005 9:22:31 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle
BTW knowing now that SCO uses GPL rather than hiring Americans to program windows file sharing and their web management interface do you still wish them well? if so why not RedHat and Novell?
51 posted on 10/27/2005 9:23:28 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle

Not too much experience with CE myself, my then Girlfriend now wife owned a PDA that used it and it seemed pretty nice...


52 posted on 10/27/2005 9:24:55 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle
Good Morning, Troll!

It's about as far removed from the Unix code-base as can be imagined. Totally different creature altogether.

Now...Go play in traffic, kid...Ya bother me.

53 posted on 10/28/2005 12:17:34 AM PDT by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm still not sold on the whole micro-kernel approach to things.

However, it *does* give me something to play with before I leave for the office.

Wait...Where's vim???

I suppose I can try my hand at porting some stuff to it this weekend after I work on my Volvo. :)

54 posted on 10/28/2005 12:25:46 AM PDT by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
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To: N3WBI3

1 - Sun and SCO run on x86, Apple will soon.

2 - Oracle definitely runs on Sun clusters.

3 - RH and other versions of Lunix aren't directly interchangable, you still have to port just like you would with any version of *nix.


55 posted on 10/28/2005 4:22:51 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3

Lots of companies use some GPL, the ones I have a problem with are those that use it exclusively or are constantly releasing more products under it.


56 posted on 10/28/2005 4:27:23 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: ExDemSince92

N3wbie is probably worried about your soul.


57 posted on 10/28/2005 4:29:05 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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1 - Sun and SCO run on x86, Apple will soon.

Apples ahrdware will still be restricted

2 - Oracle definitely runs on Sun clusters.

There recommended platform is Linux..

3 - RH and other versions of Lunix aren't directly interchangable, you still have to port just like you would with any version of *nix.

Sorry but I have probably done more migrations off from one Distro of linux to another than you have. Moving from Solaris to AIX or Linux is much more of a pain than switching distros..

58 posted on 10/28/2005 6:22:20 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle
Will the name calling never stop with you people?

What name calling? I only put out a hypothetical ("if"). I singled no one out. If you wish to take ownership of that, be my guest.

59 posted on 10/28/2005 6:30:24 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Golden Eagle
Novell sells netware under a non GPL license, IBM sells propritary products (Tivoli for example), and Redhat contains applications like Postgre which are under the BSD license not the GPL..

So you should no longer have a problem with these companies right?

60 posted on 10/28/2005 6:35:48 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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