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Wake up, Freepers, this is war.

Posted on 10/20/2005 1:15:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

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To: GraniteStateConservative
My hope is that Miers will discover during her 'boning-up' sessions, that she is not ready for prime time.

She needs to gracefully bow out. I'm told this will happen, and I hope it does.

If it does not, we have much more to lose standing against Bush than standing with him.
121 posted on 10/20/2005 2:11:12 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: lugsoul
That would demonstrate the wisdom of having civilian leadership of the government.

There is also civilian leadership of the military -- Donald Rumsfeld. He appoints who he wants.

122 posted on 10/20/2005 2:11:12 PM PDT by Pusterfuss (You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right. LBJ)
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To: Pukin Dog
Win or lose, I too am standing with George W. Bush.

Lando

123 posted on 10/20/2005 2:11:17 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (The general public doesn't pay attention enough........to care enough.)
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To: You Dirty Rats; Pukin Dog
I believe anyone who thinks defeating the President on this nomination will lead to the nomination and confirmation of a known opponent of R v W like Edith Jones or Janice Rogers Brown is delusional beyond belief. Defeat will weaken the President at the gain of the 'Rats, not Conservatives.

If Miers is defeated, it will be at the hands of conservatives who decide that the country deserves a better choice. If Bush decides to choose someone more liberal than Miers, curse Bush-- not the conservatives-- because Bush would be acting out of spite. If Bush nominated a conservative who was defeated by liberals, then, you'd have a point. But, that's not the case-- so you don't.

124 posted on 10/20/2005 2:12:01 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: bray
You know I almost never respond to the idiots.

No vote necessary, please.
125 posted on 10/20/2005 2:13:03 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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126 posted on 10/20/2005 2:13:41 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("Harriet, we're out of Liquid Paper!")
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To: XJarhead
There were plenty of intelligent, constructive ways in which opponents of this nomination could have opposed it.

I'm not sure all of the opponents were up to that. Take Ann Coulter (please!) -- the only time she stops throwing bombs is when she straps on (poor choice of words there) a flamethrower and torches indiscriminently.

Fact is that many of the components of the Republican Party think and act like outsiders rather than insiders. By blasting the President mercilessly, people don't seem to realize that it makes it much LESS likely that he's going to listen to what they have to say.

127 posted on 10/20/2005 2:15:47 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Lashed to the USS George W. Bush: "Damn the Torpedos, Full Miers Ahead!!")
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To: Pukin Dog

I agree


128 posted on 10/20/2005 2:16:03 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Pukin Dog
She needs to gracefully bow out. I'm told this will happen, and I hope it does.

I have heard some compelling arguments that this was the plan all along. Bush the poker player. A Rope-a-dope on the Dims. He's done it before.

If it does not, we have much more to lose standing against Bush than standing with him.

Amen to that!

129 posted on 10/20/2005 2:16:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectual don't exist unless you think they do!)
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To: Pukin Dog
If Miers turns out to be another Souter, I will refuse to believe that Bush wanted it that way.

Why? Laura isn't a conservative. Neither are Bush's parents. Maybe (Probably?) his daughters. Even Bush's committment is suspect. It's perfectly reasonable to say that he could be acting in concert with the wishes of his loved ones when faced with the chance to replace Sandy with a reliable movement conservative.

130 posted on 10/20/2005 2:17:42 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Say it ain't so Joe!


131 posted on 10/20/2005 2:19:12 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: lugsoul
The Britney Spears doctrine.

PD is a Bushbot. I'm not sure Britney is. She could be inclined to believe that regardless of who is in office.

132 posted on 10/20/2005 2:19:52 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Pukin Dog

"Pragmatism and victory"

Pragmatism = victory

....Like it, or not.


133 posted on 10/20/2005 2:20:29 PM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: XJarhead
This has turned into a circular firing squad with GW and Miers in the middle. Some thinks it strengthens us, but needless namecalling only makes us all look bad and eventually weakens the movement. Nobody is going to win this fight.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

134 posted on 10/20/2005 2:20:41 PM PDT by bray (Islam IS a terrorist organization)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Why?

You might not like my answer, but here it is:

George W. Bush loves God. I have no reason to believe that in his heart, he would not stand against what he knows to be wrong.

135 posted on 10/20/2005 2:21:37 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I was VERY upset at the way President George HW Bush went back on his pledge of "no new taxes". I distinctly remember how happy I was when the deal he cut was voted down by the House at the instigation of Newt. The 'Rats waited until they saw that Newt and friends would vote against, and then many of them also voted to kill the deal.

Unfortunately, the eventual deal we got was even WORSE than the deal Newt & friends voted down.

Fact is that if Harriet Miers is voted down with at least some Senators on the RIGHT voting Nay, then that will give the Gang of 14 and the 'Rats an excuse to filibuster Janice Rogers Brown, Edith Jones, Priscilla Owen, etc. The President will be politically weaker and any chance to go "nucular" will be over. THEN we'll end up with some mushy candidate in the O'Connor / Kennedy mold as the only way to get a nominee through.

136 posted on 10/20/2005 2:22:26 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Lashed to the USS George W. Bush: "Damn the Torpedos, Full Miers Ahead!!")
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To: Spiff; Pukin Dog
Win or lose, I’m standing with President Bush.
Kool-Aid? No thanks.

Win or lose, I'm standing with conservative principles.

I was a conservative before Bush and will be after. The sun will rise tomorrow whether something stupid Bush does is allowed to stand or not. So, I'll fight for what is worth fighting for. I won't fight for the idea that Bush is infallible.

137 posted on 10/20/2005 2:23:16 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Last week I was called a Bush-hater and a Bush bot within 36 hours. I wish you folks would get it right.

Now, if you want to know what I am; I am a Conservative that wants to win.
138 posted on 10/20/2005 2:23:34 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: ichabod1; Pukin Dog
We would agree with you except for one little teensy-weensy problem: The President has gone out of his ever-lovin mind. He needs to be contained, not encouraged. We are not worried about Harrie, she is going to take care of herself at the hearings, in Our opinion. At the moment We are concerned about the quality of the company that has been visiting the People's House there in Washington over the last two days.

PD thinks we should be enablers. I decline. We need an intervention, FR!

139 posted on 10/20/2005 2:25:21 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
It's perfectly reasonable to say that he could be acting in concert with the wishes of his loved ones when faced with the chance to replace Sandy with a reliable movement conservative.

I don't recall that he promised to appoint judges and Justices who are "movement conservatives". Frankly, that's not what we need on the bench anyway. We need appointees who above all will respect the LIMITED role of the Courts and not try to rule over us like a super-legislature.

140 posted on 10/20/2005 2:25:26 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Lashed to the USS George W. Bush: "Damn the Torpedos, Full Miers Ahead!!")
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