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To: GovernmentShrinker; Do Be
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Another bonus of the program was that while we he was in school and doing Sylvan, Sylvan was in constant touch with the school regarding his math class. So by the end of 6th grade we were only up to the 3rd grade level in math at Sylvan so math at school was useless. He attended class daily at school but we got him excused from homework. He then went 6 hours week almost all summer. We still had about 20 hours to go when he started 7th grade but by then he was scoring in the 11th grade level in Math. The 11th grade level came from the specific multiple choice test he took at the end of the program. So while he probably could not do a lot of the math he was able to reason out the correct answer. Not bad at all.

Sadly I just threw out the entire SYLVAN BINDER with the exact test results. We were doing fall cleaning and well I just threw it out. But now in 8th grade he is doing pre algebra with no questions asked of us. I actually think he likes math now and understands it.

In addition his ability to spell and his penmanship has improved to legible form.

I really believe he needed a program such as Sylvan to restore his confidence. After so many years of math classes with out a clue he was lost and it effected his overall performance.

They also pressured me to do a 36 hour study skills course. I seriously did think about it. Ruled against it based on how he is currently doing in school and knowing my son and his abilities.

GovernmentShrinker: question since you seem very up on this subject.

Other day he is doing his homework and his room is nearly dark. He does his homework at a normal table and desk in his room. I go to turn on the light and he says he can't concentrate with the light on. He was doing math at the time. Ever heard of this?
22 posted on 10/18/2005 10:25:23 AM PDT by alisasny (Liberal UTOPIA rains down in New Orleans Way to go)
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To: alisasny

I'm no expert as I have no children yet, and have never been an academic teacher (coached competitive gymnsatics for many years though). But I've done a lot of reading and given a lot of thought to the subject of education, since I absolutely hated school, and don't want my children having to spend most of their waking hours doing something they dislike and haven't got the faintest interest in. My number one conclusion is that my kids will do NO homework before high school, and even then not much.

Did you know that studies have found no correlation between pre-high school homework and academic achievement? I'd recommend the short book "The End of Homework". Articulates the whole problem very well -- destruction of family life, disengagement of kids from family/church/community/informal play activities, as they constantly labor under the burden of homework assignments, complete elimination of parents' role in choosing what children should learn and how fast, conditioning kids to be workaholic adults who constantly bring job-work home with them. Schools need to get the message that they need to get all academic work done during the school day. Cut out all the garbage that most schools waste time on, and that would be no problem. It's simply absurd to pretend that a child needs to spend more than 6 hours a day on academics.

Many years ago, a school friend of mine who was the daughter of a British diplomat was sent off to a good boarding school in England, after her parents were appalled with the American public school where she spent one year (also the only year I ever went to public school). In letters, she told me all about her new school, and the most interesting thing, which I'd never heard of before, was that students were absolutely prohibited from taking books or other academic materials back to their dorms with them in the evening. There were scheduled periods during the school day called "preps" (basically study hall), when students were to study and do assignments, with one teacher on hand to help if they really got stuck on something, and they had to learn to get their academic work done in that time. A very good lesson for adulthood IMO, and a policy that would do wonders if implemented in the average American family and school.

As for your son's dislike of lighting for studying, does he have a single light on his desk, with the rest of the room dark, or just everything dark? If the former, it does tend to keep attention focused on what's on the desk. If the latter, well it's a little odd, but if it works I wouldn't worry about it. I've found that as I get older I need much more light to see clearly, so what would seem like insufficient lighting to me, would probably be plenty for a teenager.


24 posted on 10/18/2005 11:02:22 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: alisasny
Other day he is doing his homework and his room is nearly dark. He does his homework at a normal table and desk in his room. I go to turn on the light and he says he can't concentrate with the light on. He was doing math at the time. Ever heard of this?

I was reading a book written by a special ed teacher several months ago who referenced a problem that sounds similar to this. Some children have trouble reading because of the contrast between black print and white paper. Glare from lights exacerbates the problem. The teacher used different colored transparent sheets over the white paper to help these kids. Most children did better when one particular color was used but I don't recall which color it was. Sorry!

25 posted on 10/22/2005 9:41:22 PM PDT by Dianna
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