I understood your previous post perfectly well, and I understand what you are trying to say-- your position is a very common one.
I am glad you did not become a statistic, and are here fighting for the Right along with us!
However, I still disagree emphatically on your reduction of abortion to simply a moral problem that cannot be prevented on earth. If unborn children are living human beings with souls, as you have acknowleged in your previous post, then would you not agree that abortion kills innocent people and is thus murder? I reiterate my point that homicide is immoral and that we will face God's judgment for it, but that does not mean it should be legal. The same is true of my previous example of rape. I just don't see why the fact that an action is sinful eliminates the possibility for legal prohibition of the action.
The goal with banning abortion is to prevent "doctors" from performing abortions, not to put women in jail. The consequences would probably fall hardest upon the abortionist rather than the mother, for he is the one doing the killing, and because many women who have abortions do not fully realize what they are doing. Illegalization of abortion would not land pregnant women in prison, as you suggested, it would make the procedure unavailable. Imprisonment of someone who claimed she wanted to terminate her child would be a violation of due process, so that could not legally happen. You are taking great leaps from allowing the states to restrict abortion within their own borders to throwing pregnant mothers in jail. A reversal of Roe v. Wade would do no such thing.
"because a nation that can do that, can also make things that you do want and support illegal."
~You are right. I do want not to be an accomplice to abortion, but it is illegal for me to not fund Planned Parenthood by refusing to pay taxes. Your point here is very clear, and is the reason I am always extremely hesitant about giving power to the government or allowing to extend its reach with social programs. Abortion is a special case, though, as prohibiting child murder is different from making laws in support of, or in penalty to, a religion or identity trait.
"I believe that God would be against such measures, and that, as I said before, He IS Pro-Choice. God gives man the freedom to murder. To rape. To steal. To curse Him. And to abort a baby in the womb. That is all part of free will and each individuals right to do whatever is in their power to do, whether it breaks a law of the nation they live in or not. There are plenty of things against God’s laws that are NOT against the laws of the United States of America. And abortion should be one of those."
~Does the liberty to murder, rape and steal that results from free will automatically justify making such actions legal?
After reading your last response, I still don't think you get what I'm saying. What I think, and wish were the case in the world, is not compatible with the reality of human nature on the whole, and is not a realistic thing to ever expect from society on the whole, because we do not have forced Christianity in this country, and never should. Abortion shouldn't be legal or illegal. It should never have come before any court in this country. That it did is a complete and total abuse of the legal system. I agree with you in your stand that abortion be "illegal" for lack of another word, and that there were never any abortions, but it will never happen. For that to happen, all Americans would have to be Christians and believe that the unborn are humans with souls. And that will never happen. You can't force morality on people who choose not to have it in their life. In my opinion that is the chief conflict between conservatism and liberalism. Moral because it's right vs. What I want when I want it (immoral) because it feels good to me. That is the biggest fight between us and the liberals in this country. And you just can't bring the pro-abortion (pro-death as I prefer to call them) people to our side because they will never see that. There is a much bigger picture of things they refuse to acknowledge than abortion. Abortion is a symptom of their greater illness, not the cause of the illness itself.
Given all that, and the fact that having it be banned and made illegal would be doing something to the American people that God has never done to any people in history. Removing free will and the God given ability to make terrible, even sinful mistakes, and then some day pay for them before God. Having an action be deemed as illegal doesn't fix it, no matter how justified the illegality of it is. Like you said, rape is illegal, and how well has that worked? It's rampant in this country. 1 of 4 women and girls over the age of 12 in this country have been raped. ONE IN FOUR! Most of them NEVER admit it so they're never part of the recorded statistics, but it's MUCH higher than anyone admits. Child rape is so common place it's incomprehensible, thanks to the sexualization of children by the media, hollywood, and the music, television and clothing industries. No one sane wants kids to be hurt like that, and yet, those industries help sow the environment that creates the statistic. Being made illegal isn't the end all be all by any stretch, and wouldn't make a bit of difference on abortion, other than make it an even more vicious debate. You think the pro-death people are shrill and vicious and venomous now, overturn Roe vs. Wade and see how they get.
Really, there are two things you're talking about. It's a fine line and hard to nail them both down. We're talking about the difference between being granted by God the free will to do something, even if it's wrong and hurts someone else, and then pay for it someday before God, and on the other hand, Congress and the President from on high saying "thus and so is now illegal, and any citizen hence forth that does it shall be fined and jailed". Well, okay, good for Congress and the President, but with abortion, that just doesn't work. It doesn't work because roughly half the people in the country do not believe the "fetus" is an unborn baby, a human, and so to them, it is not a crime. It's not like murder of someone who has been born, or rape or theft or something like that, because the overwhelming majority of people agree those things are crimes, and they are specifically lined out in the Constitution. I believe the founders never thought so many Americans would sink to such depths that they'd abort unborn babies on a whim because of immoral careless lifestyles, and if they did have a clue, they'd of put that in the Constitution stating that "termination of a fetus in the womb, at whatever stage of development, is murder in the first degree, and shall be prosecuted as such" and then it would have be done with because the democrats would never have been able to get the votes in Congress to strike that Amendment. But even if it was illegal, you still cannot legislate a mindset or morality, and the pro-death people just don't believe it is wrong or a crime, so how can you criminalize something that half the people don't believe is a crime, because they don't share the same religious convictions of those who do think it's a crime? How do you really do that? I do not believe it's possible, and that's why I believe it should be left to the States and those who choose to keep it legal will have to take their lumps someday, but States with a majority of people with a conscience, like where I am in Texas, can stand and fight and put an end to it. It is definitely a complicated issue. The difference between what is possible to stop and what's not, not what's right or wrong. Like prohibition. That was a train wreck, and while I agree with much of what was attempted and the reasons, and myself hate that it's legal for someone to go drink till they're barely conscious then go get in their car and kill someone, and not be executed for it, prohibition was still a disaster. And it was demonstrated quite clearly that prohibition only served to increase the proliferation of alcohol in society, not lessen it. There is every reason to believe that making abortion similarly illegal would do the same thing. That has to be considered I think.
I still think the best solution would be to overturn that joke of a ruling and then leave it up to a State by State vote so the people of each State, not their representatives, the actual people are forced to stand up and be counted, and decide to allow abortion in their State or not. Then, God willing, all the people against abortion will create a mass exodus from the states allowing abortion to those who have decided not to, having the added benefit of further guaranteeing that liberals never control the country again. Anyway, that's how I see it after years of tossing it around.
It's people's hearts that have to be changed, not their actions. You can't change what someone does without changing their mindset that causes them to do it. Simply removing the vehicle for them to do what they want doesn't fix them, they'll just find a different way of doing it, like back ally abortions or crossing borders to get them, etc so on. Changing their hearts where they see that abortion is a terrible immoral murderous thing is the answer, and there is no legislation from any body of legislators that can accomplish that. You can't change hearts with legislation. There is only ONE thing that can do that, and He has deemed that people must have the freedom to do things He despises, and then pay for it at the time of His choosing. Including abortion, even as disgusting and revolting as that act is.