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Whining about Miers.

Posted on 10/08/2005 9:52:18 AM PDT by Allen H

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To: Lazamataz
I would cook you into a chili and eat your human flesh.

You promised you'd seek therapy for that kind of behavior.

321 posted on 10/08/2005 4:23:40 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Guenevere
sigh..leave....it...go!

Can't happen.

Besides, a good cannibal like me never passes up a chance for a nice helping of long pig.

322 posted on 10/08/2005 4:29:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Guenevere
He makes a post like he did in 318 and he's a really nice guy when I've gone out of my way not to be personal and stick to the issue and just say over and over that there has not been enough evidence yet to support all this hysteria by the anti-Miers crowd, and then when I am the adult and "agree to disagree" laz has to play BMOC and make that stupid comment in 318? Is that the nice guy he is, after I agree with you to let it go, and tell him the same?

Whatever. I made clear I was sick of the whining I heard all week at the start of this, and I also made it clear it was media whining about it I was sick of. Some people like laz took is personaly and went after me for it. Sobeit. I don't walk from fights and when someone gets in my face I don't walk away. I was just expecting better than this at a conservative blog. I was expecting that there could be difference in opinions with respect and polite responses. laz did not demonstrate this in his responses and it was NOT because of what I said to him. He started that way before I said word one to him. But it doesn't matter. I still think it's silly to gripe about things before they even happen, but to each his own. 8)

323 posted on 10/08/2005 4:29:32 PM PDT by Allen H (An informed person, is a conservative person. Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Allen H
I don't know, the people I have heard talk about who who know her well have said she is anything but timid, that she does NOT compromise.

First, you AGAIN miss my point. I didn't say SHE was timid, I said the nomination was, because the nomination is "steath" in nature, instead of "in your face conservative" in nature.

I'll give you "well spoken", but your grade on "responsive" is not so hot.

The play out of her tenacity is mostly speculative. Is she tenaciously attached to the commerce clause as justification for federal intervention? How compa$$ionate is her con$ervati$m with other people's money?

Again, even if her jurisprudence jives with mine, I have valid concerns.

And the whole use of the word "crony" makes me cringe ...

Me too. But it's in the nature of the nomination. She vetted GWB in 1994, looking for dirt as he ran for governor of Texas. He's rewarded her since. The charge is not incredible, and he will eventaully need to address it. An unnecessary distraction, at best. Actual cronysism at worst.

the fact that she is the one who brought all those great conservative Judges to Bush to nominate. That cannot be overstated.

Jurists who espouse constitutional princile exist. The fact that she is a conduit of communication makes her nothing but a conduit of communication.

Given the evidence, I think Miers is a moderate, at best.

324 posted on 10/08/2005 4:30:39 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Allen H
He makes a post like he did in 318

Look, I'm a cannibal on doctors orders. I must eat human flesh, or I'll become diabetic.

Don't oppress me, fascist!

325 posted on 10/08/2005 4:31:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: leadpenny
You promised you'd seek therapy for that kind of behavior.

I lied.

326 posted on 10/08/2005 4:32:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Don't ever forget that, given even a sliver of a chance, I would cook you into a chili and eat your human flesh."

You say that, and somehow still insist that you're a mature ideological conservative? If you get this upset about something ambiguous that isn't even proven out yet, I'd hate to see how you'd be if there was something substantive you disagreed with other conservatives about. I mean, that comment you made was so over the top stupid and served no purpose. It didn't impress anyone. Smart threatening text comments really just don't carry much in the way of fear. It's not hard to talk big on a computer. Whatever. This is beyond 3rd gradeish. You feel how you do and have a right now, and I never said otherwise. Stupid Allen for thinking I could come on here and expect ALL other conservatives could be adult and respectful if they disagree. You definitely proved me wrong on that at least. Have a good weekend.

327 posted on 10/08/2005 4:33:11 PM PDT by Allen H (An informed person, is a conservative person. Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Allen H
You say that, and somehow still insist that you're a mature ideological conservative?



A census taker once said something insulting to me.
I ate his liver with some fava beans,
and a nice Chianti.
F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f

If you get this upset about something ambiguous that isn't even proven out yet, I'd hate to see how you'd be if there was something substantive you disagreed with other conservatives about.

When it gets me that upset, I make it put the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again.

328 posted on 10/08/2005 4:37:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Allen H
Smart threatening text comments really just don't carry much in the way of fear. It's not hard to talk big on a computer.

Oh, no, it's not just a threat. I intend to cook you into a chili and serve you to Scott Tenorman.

He should have returned the money I paid for those pubes.

329 posted on 10/08/2005 4:39:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, besides being an elitist, anti-Christian bigot, immature, DU troll and whiner, you are also a cannibal?
330 posted on 10/08/2005 4:42:35 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Cboldt
Ohhhhh , okay I did misread that. Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with the nomination at first. I was REALLY watering at the mouth at the thought of a Luddig or Owens or someone like them. But the more time that went by, I totally have NO faith in the Senate Republicans to cowboy up and form a majority to support a firm clear cut Judge like that. I have no faith in the Senate whatever to do what the conservative majority of Americans wants. They just took away the military and the President's rights to interrogate terrorists as they see fit, how can they be trusted to put in a known Scalia or Thomas type nominee?

That's where I think Miers will be a conservative since she is the one who vetted all the great conservatives that Bush nominated that conservatives think are so great and wish had gotten the nomination. How, if she was good enough to pick those conservatives, and she thought Roberts wasn't conservative enough, is she somehow not good enough herself to be a Justice? That is illogical.

I'd agree she's just a "conduit" like you said, if it wasn't for the fact that her personal life and how she's spent her time off the job are filthy with things that smack of someone very conservatively, both socially and religiously. There's nothing in her personal life that is not consistent with all the conservative social and religious values that the conservative majority of the country believes in also. By all appearances, she would have to betray her own person to be a justice like o'conner or souter. And she'd have to have a brain transplant to be like ginsburg or stevens. There just isn't any evidence that points to her being a less than conservative constructionist Justice, and since Bush has put up ONLY conservative Judges, there is NO example to give that would indicate that Miers is not in that same mold. Especially since he knows her and what she thinks about things and how she believes, unlike Reagan and Bush 41 who did not know kennedy, or o'conner, or souter. Those are all the things I can't get around in all this that make me believe she is a real conservative. Plus all the well known strong conservative and Christian people who have known her personally for many years who put their reputations on the line by backing her and defending her as a strong conservative. I mean, Jay Sekulow, Nathan Hecht, Rev. Falwell, John Cornyn, on and on and on. Those are not stupid people that are easily fooled. All the people defending her actually know her. All the people upset with her nomination, don't know her and few have even ever met her before this. When all the democrats start nailing her to the wall in committee and the moveon.org and people for the Amrican way ads continue to flood the airwaves, will it still be possible to believe she's not a real conservative? now and narwal do not oppose closet libs or milk-toast Republicans like they are opposing Miers.

331 posted on 10/08/2005 4:45:41 PM PDT by Allen H (An informed person, is a conservative person. Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Lazamataz

At least now I know it's not worth my time responding to you in future threads. If I'd of known three hours ago what I know now, I could be enjoying my second movie and popcorn. Oh well. Stupid me for thinking I was posting to someone rational that wasn't off any kind of medication. Cya.


332 posted on 10/08/2005 4:49:17 PM PDT by Allen H (An informed person, is a conservative person. Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Lazamataz
I give up.
333 posted on 10/08/2005 4:50:44 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Allen H
I was REALLY watering at the mouth at the thought of a Luddig or Owens or someone like them. But the more time that went by, I totally have NO faith in the Senate Republicans to cowboy up and form a majority to support a firm clear cut Judge like that.

Neither did I. And I'd hoped the President would have forced the issue instead of capitulating. Oh well.

The rest of your post is about the nominee, and as I have said many times, my issue is more with the use of stealth nomination than about the character of the nominee.

334 posted on 10/08/2005 5:05:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Allen H
[ Just because I choose to be a grown up and wait to gripe after something has actually happened to gripe about, doesn't make me some nazi bush-bot as you so immaturely put it. Grow up if you're going to post to me. I can't stand people who have to use insults in place of facts of rational thought. ]

Lets see, you're griping(posting) about me griping(posting) about somthing else on Free Republic.. Where exactly is it that you THINK you are elephant breath.?... Meet the Press?...

335 posted on 10/08/2005 5:53:23 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Allen H; Lazamataz
Laz and I have been aquainted for a LONG time now, almost as long as there has BEEN a FreeRepublic, and I will vouch for the fact that he is a conservative through and through. In fact, he gets extra credit for the turf in which he resides!

Reasonalble people can disagree and still remain friends.

336 posted on 10/08/2005 6:04:18 PM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Allen H; Lazamataz
Laz and I have been aquainted for a LONG time now, almost as long as there has BEEN a FreeRepublic, and I will vouch for the fact that he is a conservative through and through. In fact, he gets extra credit for the turf in which he resides!

Reasonalble people can disagree and still remain friends.

337 posted on 10/08/2005 6:04:22 PM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Lazamataz
[ You seem like another liberal troll from DU. ....says the fool who's been here for all of a month, to the person who's been here for years. ]

LoL... Must be a Viking Kitty.. in training.. hopefully..
Us big ol' feral cats think its cute.. when they puff up, turn sideways, hiss and bat their widdle paws at ya..

He will learn quickly herding freepers is like herding cats..

338 posted on 10/08/2005 6:05:03 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Always Right
Laz, besides being an elitist, anti-Christian bigot, immature, DU troll and whiner, you are also a cannibal?

And not only that. I'm a lingerie-wearing one-eyed lumberjack, an elitist anti-Christian Pope-in-training, an immature whiner who knows cheese much better than you, and a rocket surgeon.

Learn it. Live it. Love it.

339 posted on 10/08/2005 7:48:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Allen H
At least now I know it's not worth my time responding to you in future threads. If I'd of known three hours ago what I know now, I could be enjoying my second movie and popcorn. Oh well. Stupid me for thinking I was posting to someone rational that wasn't off any kind of medication. Cya.

You do know that this means I will be shadowing you whereever you go on this forum.

I cannot resist busting the chops of the humorless and the tersely-hemmhoroidal.

340 posted on 10/08/2005 7:51:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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