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Important Observation About JetBlue Landing
News | September 21, 2005 | me

Posted on 09/21/2005 8:25:21 PM PDT by HighWheeler

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To: HighWheeler
check the video in post #6 on this thread.

I did. I take it back-- looks like he drifted on to centerline just as the rubber burned through, and the paint stripes appeared to coordinate exactly with flare-ups in the sparks. The metal sparks appeared to be igniting the paint stripes at least 5 times that looked exactly in sync with the painted stripes.

There are little raised markers that are also on the centerline, so the centerline can be seen during rainy or cluttered conditions. Maybe they could have contributed to the sparks or flame, too.

41 posted on 09/21/2005 8:46:40 PM PDT by zipper (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: BearWash

LOL, Just admit you were wrong and move on :-)


42 posted on 09/21/2005 8:47:24 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: MJY1288

"Answer: Ceramic stripes"

Naaa. Give each evacuee passenger $2,000 vouchers and then point fingers at whose to blame.


43 posted on 09/21/2005 8:47:34 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: HighWheeler

Don't have it. Someone please find the MSNBC clip and post a link.


44 posted on 09/21/2005 8:48:03 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: zipper

I hope they don't use aluminum chips in that paint for reflectivity, aluminum is a main fuel in the Space Shuttle's solid rocket engines.


45 posted on 09/21/2005 8:48:36 PM PDT by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

ROFLMAO, It's Bush's fault


46 posted on 09/21/2005 8:49:41 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: HighWheeler

already posted. Inge_CAV's son noticed that in the original thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1488925/posts?q=1&&page=1251#1363


47 posted on 09/21/2005 8:52:55 PM PDT by smonk
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To: smonk

thanks for the link! FReepers are a very observant bunch! I wonder if anyone else in media has caught this?


48 posted on 09/21/2005 8:55:01 PM PDT by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: MJY1288

I have admitted I was wrong. But I think it's much more likely a coating friction issue than a flammability issue. The thread starter made an astute observation of the apparent link with the stripes.


49 posted on 09/21/2005 8:55:25 PM PDT by steve86 (@)
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To: BearWash

I thought I had heard everything. Now, I hear that our airport runways have flammable stripes on them. In fact our entire road system has painted stripes on them. Does dry runway or highway paint burn? Will we see terrorists dropping matches on our highways? "Hello 911, my street is on fire".


50 posted on 09/21/2005 8:58:12 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: HighWheeler
This is really silly.
The intense flames were from magnesium or titanium parts, the result of the intense friction heat.
The "pulsing" was most likely from the slipstream. The painted line had zero contribution to the effect.
51 posted on 09/21/2005 9:00:56 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961

You may want to view the video in post #6 above for confirmation.


52 posted on 09/21/2005 9:03:12 PM PDT by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: BearWash
OK, I admit, a Air Bus with it's wheels sideways will cause friction :-)

I just Thank God they landed safely, I'll not spend much debating this deal, a 250,000 pound passenger jet with it's wheels grinding into any surface tends to heat things up a bit, I just hope there wasn't any Spotted Owls on the runway :-)

53 posted on 09/21/2005 9:03:58 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: HighWheeler
I hope they don't use aluminum chips in that paint for reflectivity, aluminum is a main fuel in the Space Shuttle's solid rocket engines.

It's likely the hub assembly of the wheel was aluminum alloy.

I'm still trying to figure out why they didn't foam the runway, unless they didn't have that capability-- and you'd think LA of all places would have first-rate firefighting capability.

54 posted on 09/21/2005 9:06:49 PM PDT by zipper (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: Publius6961
The painted line had zero contribution to the effect.

Ditto what HighWheeler says-- see the video then say that. Notice how he drifts right to centerline as the rollout progresses.

55 posted on 09/21/2005 9:09:21 PM PDT by zipper (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: zipper

"I'm still trying to figure out why they didn't foam the runway,"


That's a good point. But that also would make an interesting debate. If they had used the foam, we might not have found out that the paint was such an effective ignition source/fuel for starting fires.


56 posted on 09/21/2005 9:12:27 PM PDT by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: HighWheeler
the paint was such an effective ignition source/fuel for starting fires.

I'm with you on the ignition source but not on the fuel. I think an analysis would show that even total burning of a paint stripe would not release enough energy to create those flames. But igniting a part on the LG, yes.

57 posted on 09/21/2005 9:15:49 PM PDT by steve86 (@)
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To: HighWheeler

I think you've sparked a flame war.


58 posted on 09/21/2005 9:18:04 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: zipper

That was a beautiful landing, considering the problem!


59 posted on 09/21/2005 9:18:59 PM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Xenalyte
My important observation is that it was the most boring emergency landing I've ever seen.

Good sex is exciting.

A good hockey game is exciting.

An good emergency landing should be boring as hell.

60 posted on 09/21/2005 9:25:27 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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