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FR Baseball thread..w/e 9/18: TWO WEEKS LEFT...and only ONE of 8 post-season spots clinched..
one man's opinion.......

Posted on 09/19/2005 7:21:17 AM PDT by ken5050

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To: justshutupandtakeit; SCALEMAN; All
FYI: Excellent analytical article in today's NY TIMES' sports section...Underestimating Fielding Is a Silly Mental Error

Well worth reading..look forward to your comments/observations..Enjoy..regards..

421 posted on 09/25/2005 9:37:33 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
While the Yanks were limping through August with all types of pitching woes were were losing to the Royals, the Orioles and D-Rays.

OTOH, we have basicly gotten nothing of value this year from: Schilling, Foulke, Embree, Mantei, and Bellhorn. This team has had to overcome adversity to get here. At least the Yanks have RJ who is on fire. We don't have any pitcher we can totally rely on to be great for us. and, it's not our fault that the Rockies were so giddy to trade away a solid pitcher like Chacon, or that Small would give the Yanks such help. I'm proud of what we've accomplished.

422 posted on 09/25/2005 10:03:31 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: ken5050

Wells had an incredible start against them in Baltimore earlier, but he says he has physical issues now, so who knows how he'll do. We'll send in DiNardo if Wells is cold today, and Lenny actually did okay in his last start.


423 posted on 09/25/2005 10:05:54 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Perdogg

Computed????


424 posted on 09/25/2005 10:07:59 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Petronski

Tribe last week..6-1... .347 Team BA..17 HRs..


425 posted on 09/25/2005 10:08:23 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050
FYI..WFAN, the NY Sports talk station..doesn't live stream...but they do post a fresh selection of audio clips...worth checking out once a day to see how the Yankee fans are going bananas..and scroll down to Steve Sommers, for his interviews with Red Sox and Tribe beat reporters

Yeah, I heard the Mike and the Mad Dog clips last year after Game 7. Hilarious.

426 posted on 09/25/2005 10:11:42 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: JohnnyZ

How I computed my final standings:

Games won + f(r) (calculated wins of remaining games) = total games won.

f(r) (calculated wins of remaining games= (162-r)X ((sqrt (Win percentage X Win percentage last ten games))+ f(e)(%Error of win percentage total)).

f(e)(%Error of win percentage total))= 1.29 X sqrt((Win percentage X Los percentage)/(total games played-1)).




427 posted on 09/25/2005 10:47:36 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: ElTianti

Going back and forth between NESN (Red Sox) and ESPN (Yanks)
(Sunday)
middle of the 5th Yanks TRAIL Jays 3-1
bottom 2nd Sox up 5-2 (Wells gives up back to back HRs.
ESPN said umps of this game has a small strike zone)

Sox fans cheer for Tor. (OK, Blue Jays, let's, play,
ball, as the old SkyDome chant used to go) today but Sox
play them tomorrow...


428 posted on 09/25/2005 11:13:33 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Perdogg

GIGO


429 posted on 09/25/2005 11:18:40 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Perdogg
The games won totals are not independent -- last10 is a dubious predictor at best -- if you're going to try to model the outcomes of the last 8 games of a season, the actual teams and pitchers and hitters involved have so much more to do with it than season W%, L10, or anything else.

Given the variables involved, might as well just use informed judgement, and besides most guesses, or models, or anthing, are going to be within 1 or 2 W or L of the actual outcome with so few games remaining.

Essentially you "computed" that since the Yankees have a better L10 record, they're going to win the division. That's a valid opinion, but it has nothing to do with computation.

430 posted on 09/25/2005 11:30:09 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: JohnnyZ

don't get me wrong I am not Yankees fan.


431 posted on 09/25/2005 11:45:33 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg
I don't care whose fan you are I'm just saying it's opinion, not computation.

I've been modeling the chances of teams ending the season tied, but that's not heavily dependent on predicting who's going to win how many and who's going to lose. I could change the assumptions I use (70-30 and 50-50) and it wouldn't affect the ultimate answer a whole heck of a lot.

432 posted on 09/25/2005 11:56:39 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: ken5050; Petronski
One more reason to love baseball:

Ambiorix Burgos facing Coco Crisp

433 posted on 09/25/2005 1:01:35 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: ken5050

You do not have to convince me of the value of great defense.
I don't recall Scotty being that reduced by his injury however. Not mentioned is the great play by the Sox SS, Uribe, and the Center Fielder, Rowland. Both of whom have made fantastic play after fantastic play. And the whole infield has been outstanding defensively. Bruehle and Garland are also at the top of fielding their positions as well. Defense is a great strength of the Sox.


434 posted on 09/25/2005 8:11:54 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Nice win today.....FYI.. I just posted the new thread...


435 posted on 09/25/2005 8:31:03 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050
Here's another happy thought for you....Andy Pettitte, whom the Yankees let walk after the 2003 season..since June 20 this year, in his last 18 starts..is 14-2 with a 1.58 ERA...think that wouldn't have helped this season, Boss? You paid 4 times his salary for Randy and Kevin...and got drek...

Randy's numbers are not as bad as everybody thinks -- he's got the identical won-loss record that Pedro has this year (and everybody agrees Pedro has had a fantastic year), but with a run more in the ERA (standard differential between AL and NL.) And Randy has beaten the Red Sox four times already this year, which is nothing to sneeze at.

436 posted on 09/26/2005 12:48:01 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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