[steve8714]

We don't look at his previous job. Joe Torre has had much success in his subsequent job- neither has anything to do with their performance here. LaRussa was outmanaged by Bobby Cox in '96 and later by Valentine in the Mets' year. I'd rather split into 4 eight team leagues with no interleague play than continue the wild card system, so "post season" means little to me. Only the pennant has meaning.

[SCALEMAN]

I'd rather split into 4 eight team leagues with no interleague play than continue the wild card system, so "post season" means little to me. Only the pennant has meaning.

I concur. I don't like interleague and the wild card thing sort of grates on me. When did the NLB become the NFL? The logical extension is a format like NHL where they play all season to eliminate 2 teams.

I like the 4 team leagues with a lot of play within them. Truthfully I could care less about watching the Cards play AL teams during the season, and it creates inequalities in the schedule.

[SCALEMAN]

Joe Torre has had much success in his subsequent job- neither has anything to do with their performance here

Joe IMO is pulling a salary. His only real success was as a catcher. I admit he has to put up with a lot of crap from Steinbrenner, but that's his choice, and for the money I'd do it too, but to label him as a successful manager is a stretch. Anyone could be as successful as Joe if they had an owner who would spend any amount of money for players.

[JohnnyZ]

We don't look at his previous job. Joe Torre has had much success in his subsequent job- neither has anything to do with their performance here.

I'm not a LaRussa fan, but it does show that at least LaRussa/Torre and others can win pennants and the world series given a good enough team or a little luck.

If they don't win them for your team perhaps it is your team (GM, players) who should get the blame, not hang it on the manager.