Posted on 08/29/2005 3:08:41 PM PDT by N3WBI3
Arrogant, snotty, ignorant people are my pet peeve. I believe they should be ruthlessly exterminated.
Which is why I love Ann Coulter, despise Socialists, and think the bacteria floating in the depths of the Paris Sewer are a higher life form than you are.
Ivan
I've presented countless links and can provide more of socialists publicly endorsing open source to the point of passing laws requiring it. You on the other hand have nothing showing them actually endorsing Microsoft or any commercial software products for anything.
We also have this today, the open source crowd planning on creating a new license that attempts to make open source incompatible with existing intellectual property law, namely patents and anti-piracy products. Shouldn't surprise anyone, they've been trying to get these laws overturned for years since these products infringe on so many.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1855846,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,94986,00.html?f=x10
I just posted over a dozen links showing major left wing organisations using Microsoft products; if actual use isn't an endorsement in your world...well that indicates that you're simply not going to listen to anything that contradicts your point of view. Again, if Open Source is indeed left wing, these organisations would be obliged to follow their ideology - and there is no doubting their fanaticism - to use the supposed OS of choice for the Left.
By the same token, accusing those using Linux of supporting Communism is daft. I can go back and find loads of conservative organisations and sites using Open Source, including Free Republic. You stepped back from calling Jim Rob a Communist - but only by semi-acknowleding the point I was making: Operating Systems are tools. You can use a hammer to build a house, or to hit someone over the head. You can use Linux to build a wonderful conservative website (like this one) or a left wing one. You can use Microsoft to build conservative sites, or as you can see, loads of left wing ones. The tool itself is value neutral. You just don't like the Open Source tool because it offends your friend Bill Gates...and let's get this out in the open, you're a Microsoft hack ("Microsoft is easier to use"), and thus use hysterical excuses, repeatedly disproven (though you'll never, ever admit it) and hope being an arrogant piece of donkey crap will convince us otherwise.
As for your two articles - the first is actually about trying to prevent infringement of the Open Source model. The second has this clause which blows the rest of it out of the water -
Norman was skeptical about the effectiveness of such a study, given the vastness of the code in the Linux kernel and the large number of software patents that have been issued. "I don't think that you could identify all of the patents that were possibly relevant to the Linux kernel," he said. "The only way you could do it was if you were a kernel developer."
I know, I know, none of this means anything to you, and nothing anyone will say will convince you out of your position, and absolutely nothing in this world will prevent you from seeing Red(s) when Linux is mentioned. But it's fun proving you're a prat anyway.
Ivan
It's not a public endorsement, no. Netcraft doesn't guarantee anything, you have no proof they are actually using that particular sofware anyway as a typcial security mechanism is to spoof your host. If this concept is over your head ask someone else for lessons.
What I have provided is postive proof that communist countries are passing laws requiring open source, and liberal political parties the world over are attempting to follow that lead in non communist countries. You've never once admitted this obvious fact, preferring instead to sling insults at me for making this public knowledge.
Open source fanatics like yourself will continue to endorse products that violate intellectual property laws, while passing other laws requiring we use it. You'll claim you want all software to be free but then sue anyone that uses your code to create something new if they don't give that back your "community". We're not as dumb as you think, and slinging insults and bolding your fonts in no way wins anyone other than more fools to your cause.
Must be talking about yourself, since we're still waiting for you to admit you were wrong, despite your bolded fonts, on the fact that China is required to adhere to US intellectual property laws per membership in the WTO. Been how many days now?
Let me answer for you.
am: Which branch of the Service were you in?
GE: My mommy wouldn't let me join, besides they have a 'Don't ask, don't tell policy
am: You talk a lot about Communism, but have you looked a Communist in the eye??
GE: I have never seen a real Communist. I am scared of them.
am: Where was Linux when the Chinese invented Gunpowder?
GE: Linux wasn't around yet?
am: Where was Linux when the Chinese invented Rockets?
GE: Linux wasn't around yet?
am: Where was Linux when the Chinese tested their First A-Bomb in 1964?
GE: Linux wasn't around yet?
am: Where was Linux when the Chinese tested their First H-Bomb in 1967
GE: Linux wasn't around yet?
am: While I was standing Guard Duty in the rain, where were you??
GE: I was in the closet playing with myself.
Deal with the facts on the issues we're discussing.
EVERY time a Linux thread is posted instead of discussing Linux, you change it into a Thread about Communists.
So why don't you 'SHUT THE F--- UP!!!
LOL, you guys must be having nightmares about my expose's. You didn't really think nobody else knew did you? There have been countless news reports about it, where do you think I get my endless supply of links? There are lots of other places besides communism.org that tie the two together.
Yes, just I expected. Nothing anyone says or proves makes any difference to you - if the facts don't fit your point of view, merely change the goalposts of proof. And you wonder why people think you're a complete tosser.
I am not an Open Source fanatic. I came to these threads with an open mind. I was polite when I first spoke to you. You might want to spend a period of reflection considering why it is that your attitude might make someone like me think you're an utter, complete a**hole who deserves a good kicking. Here's a clue - your attitude, arrogance and inability to consider anyone's facts besides your own make people want to hit you with large sticks.
Ivan
You haven't disproven anything, when the accusation is every major communist government and every liberal political party in the world is working to pass laws, if they haven't already, mandating open source software. They are trying to destroy existing intellectual property laws, as well as some of the most profitable companies on the planet. You've not disproven any of that at all, all you've really done, with every single post you've made, is attempt to attack me personally for pointing it out.
Bulls***. If that were the case, then Communist dictatorships like Vietnam would not be running Windows as their server platform for the central committee. George Galloway would not be kitted out with Windows Server 2003.
hey are trying to destroy existing intellectual property laws, as well as some of the most profitable companies on the planet.
Microsoft propaganda. Steve Ballmer, is that you? The truth be told, Open Source has allowed creations such as online travel booking engines which have created some of the most profitable companies on the planet. Oh, and check out what the recent darling of Wall Street is running - Google runs Linux.
You've not disproven any of that at all, all you've really done, with every single post you've made, is attempt to attack me personally for pointing it out.
Reread your statement. This is why people want to hurt you - people patiently disprove you and you totally ignore everything they say because you just don't want to acknowledge anything that contradicts you. At a certain point argument is pointless because the process of rational argument implies you are going to actually digest what the other person says, not spew blather whenever you get replied to. As you show no capacity for rational argument and you continue to insist on being a troll - insulting you is the only way to get through to you on any level whatsoever. Actually, it's not insulting - it's merely telling you the truth to say that you are a total piece of worm ridden dog excrement who ought to be punched so hard in the face that it actually improves your undoubtedly hideous looks.
I despise you, your attitude and the way you discuss things. In my opinion, you add nothing to this board, you are totally lacking in any intellectual value or worth whatsoever, and all you do is add conflict and derision to threads which do not merit it. You're the worst sort of poster on boards like these - only able to draw attention to yourself by being as annoying and loud as possible.
You can either shut up or continue to earn more derision. Your choice.
Ivan
Yet more evidence of your reading comprehension skills, eh?
If you'd actually bother to examine the articles, you'd find that the most recent one was posted in March 2004. The other three are from 2 years ago.
Since you claim that Vietnam is passing laws requiring OSS in all desktop machines, and these areticles are at least 1.5 years old, and Vietnam is a dictatorship, I am assuming that you are now claiming that all PCs in Vietnam are now running OSS, correct?
Dictatorships merely have to issue edicts and it happens, dude. There is no lobbying in Congress, making deals, etc that slow down the process like we have.
Prove all PCs in Vietnam are running OSS or this is another example of you lying about governments outlawing Microsoft.
Keep in mind that merely "trying to eliminate Microsoft" is not proof, nor is it "making laws requiring OSS."
No, your assumptions are just as bogus as your supposed realizations. Open source is often difficult to deploy, and to keep working. Ask the engineers in Munich Germany, who just announced yet ANOTHER delay in their implementation. And engineers in Germany are certainly more advanced than those in Vietnam.
http://www.cpv.org.vn was running Microsoft-IIS on Windows Server 2003 when last queried at 6-Sep-2005 02:54:07 GMT
If they're trying to outlaw Open Source in Vietnam, they're obviously not doing it down at Vietnam Posts and Telecommunications (VNPT) and down at the Communist Party HQ.
Regards, Ivan
The carter center is using ASP, and Liberal party of Canada uses ASPX (Microsoft NET technology). The others are not using anything that shows up in the URL's and I'm not doing your homework for you but with these two they *are* using MS technology..
LOL!! Yeah, you just keep on believing that. That must be why MS went back to BSD to run Hotmail after they bought it, right? In case you've (conveniently) forgotten, Hotmail was running BSD when it was bought by MS. MS then converted it over to Windows with tragic results, so they went back to BSD for several months while they figured out how to get the site to run on Windows.
Netcraft doesn't guarantee anything. It's a remote query that can easily be spoofed and often is for security reasons. Besides, even the engineers in Germany are running behind on their Lunix plans, so no surprise the idiots in vietnam are too.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1473011/posts?page=133#133
WHen you cannot argue, and cannot win
Spin little troll, spin spin spin!
Ivan
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