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To: for-q-clinton
I did provide a link to the technology. You did? Where?

I never said product X.

You seemed to imply that I could just drop it in. In any case, now your solution is on the same theoretical level as my solution for strengthening Linux passwords that already can't be cracked by any existing lookup tables.

Remember the OSS mantra of being able to do what you need to with code?

The difference is that in your case to get Windows passwords up to UNIX standards you have to write a complete replacement of the Windows password management system (don't forget, you have to store the individual salts next to the passwords), while I would just have to put a few for loops into Linux's current password management system. No hard work, no large fee, just a tiny bit of editing and a recompile. You don't have that option with Windows.

Sorry, your solution doesn't fly in this disussion. It isn't available to the general public even as a paid-for add-on (which I would normally discount anyway), and therefore isn't applicable to a discussion of practical Windows password security.

Just admit it, Windows password handling is inferior.

525 posted on 08/31/2005 9:13:20 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
The difference is that in your case to get Windows passwords up to UNIX standards you have to write a complete replacement of the Windows password management system (don't forget, you have to store the individual salts next to the passwords), while I would just have to put a few for loops into Linux's current password management system. No hard work, no large fee, just a tiny bit of editing and a recompile. You don't have that option with Windows.

But someone had to write the linux part. No? Or did it magically write itself?

Face it, you didn't know it was available and now you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Often when windows has an advantage Linux types will say I can customize linux to do that. Or there's an OSS project right now underway to do that, it should be ready for beta in x months.

You're a joke.

527 posted on 08/31/2005 9:50:21 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: antiRepublicrat
while I would just have to put a few for loops into Linux's current password management system. No hard work, no large fee, just a tiny bit of editing and a recompile. You don't have that option with Windows.

Hmmm...I don't remember that mantra amongst the linux crowds. Let's see how much sense it makes.

"In order to do anything you want with linux all you have to do is just change a few lines of code."

Interesting and amazing, but not true.

The point of the Linux mantra of being able to customize the code to do what you want was so that one could customize whatever they wanted/needed. Even replacing whole parts.

528 posted on 08/31/2005 9:55:46 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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