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To: AnAmericanMother
Do you have titles for the last four pieces? I know the Lady of Shallot as the third one down, and it is stunning in person (much lighter and full of detail). But the one at the top has me stumped.

I don't like the pre-Raphaelites very much; too much detail and distraction for me, I think. Also, I never got how they were like the "primitives" before Raphael. They always seem super-sophisticated to me. Some people swear by them, and there are some good pieces (like Rossetti's Annunciation below). I guess I just like simpler works.

19 posted on 08/22/2005 1:23:22 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: Republicanprofessor
For some reason Rossetti got his act together for The Annunciation (even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then.)

I think the "Brotherhood" was pretty silly, more or less on the level of college secret societies, but maybe a little bit more sophisticated. I also never understood how they considered themselves "primitive" - the last word I would use to describe the lot of them (although Rossetti unfortunately is frequently primitive, especially in his preparatory sketches.) . . . but still, they turned out some good work.

The four pictures in order are "Found" by D.G. Rossetti, in the Delaware Art Museum, Wilmington (nobody else wanted it); "May Morning, Magdalen Tower" by W.H. Hunt (showing the May sunrise choral service on top of the college tower at Magdalen (Oxford). What the Parsi is doing there is anybody's guess), Birmingham (ENG not AL) Art Museum; "The Lady of Shallott" also by Hunt, in the Manchester City Art Museum; and "A Street Scene in Cairo (the Lantern-Maker's Courtship)" also by Hunt, and also in Birmingham. The last was painted on his Middle Eastern tour -- he went to gather material for his Biblical paintings like "The Scapegoat" and "Christ Discovered in the Temple."

She left the web, she left the loom,
She made three paces thro' the room
She saw the water lily bloom,
She saw the helmet and the plume,
She looked down to Camelot.

Out flew the web and floated wide,
The mirror cracked from side to side,
'The Curse is come upon me,' cried
The Lady of Shalott.

- Tennyson

Here's another darned odd painting by Hunt - "The Triumph of the Innocents".

On the flight into Egypt, the Holy Innocents slaughtered by Herod appear to the Holy Family, holding symbols of their martyrdom. The infant Jesus sees them and holds out to them the wheat in the ear (that will become the Bread of the Eucharist). The little globes of water rising from the stream contain images of salvation prophecy. The Virgin's face is painted in two different versions (one in Liverpool, one in the Tate) - in this version, she has the serene and somewhat mysterious look of a pagan goddess.

(kind of a heavy theological burden for one painting, though it's a large one!)

20 posted on 08/22/2005 2:44:37 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Republicanprofessor, this is slightly off topic, but would you be willing to offer a definition for the term "classical art?" There is a discussion/argument going on over at wetcanvas.com RE that subject and I'd be interested in hearing your insights.

My personal opinion is that classical art can include all the stuff starting with the classical Greeks, Polyklitos et al, and continuing up through the academics of the 19th century, but not including the impressionists. Including though Norman Rockwell, Andrew Loomis, Harold Speed, etc. And also I believe that some comic book art can be included in the classical tradition, superheroes, etc. "Modern" art is a conscious effort not to follow in the classical tradition, I think.


28 posted on 08/22/2005 7:15:14 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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