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NJ Sheriff boots feds probing alleged abuse of detainees (calls investigators arrogant and inept)
North Jersey Newspapers ^ | 08.17.05 | ASJYLYN LODER

Posted on 08/21/2005 6:05:51 PM PDT by Coleus

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1 posted on 08/21/2005 6:05:53 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus
Really now, why would it be so bad for potential illegal aliens all of the world to believe that we toss illegals to the dogs for dinner?

We don't have to do that, of course, but what's wrong with them having that belief?

2 posted on 08/21/2005 6:15:56 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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Really now, why would it be so bad for potential illegal aliens all of the world to believe that we toss illegals to the dogs for dinner?

And, why should we NOT do it for real ??????? We need action on many different fronts to curb this flood, and "mis-treating" those captured is a heck of a place to start !!!!

3 posted on 08/21/2005 7:34:34 PM PDT by dfwddr
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To: dfwddr

I don't much like killing people, Fur Shur, but if we put panties on their heads and bring in the barking dogs, it might well work to convince them to abide by our rules.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 7:38:40 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: HiJinx

...The federal probe is part of a multistate audit of 10 detention facilities around the nation by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Office of Inspector General. The federal agency added Passaic County to the audit in November, after media reports about immigration detainees ...

Homeland Security is making sure the illegal immigrants are be treated well. I feel safer already.


5 posted on 08/21/2005 9:47:47 PM PDT by planekT (No fence, no vote.)
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To: planekT; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
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Sounds like some illegal immigrants are learning from the Sheet Heads at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo. Those media hounds sure do like a good story...as opposed to the truth.

6 posted on 08/21/2005 10:09:39 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: HiJinx

Anyone have a current family tree for the US Goobermint ? Where does the Dept of Homeland Security sit on the trickle down on the authority chain ?


7 posted on 08/21/2005 10:15:52 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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They're a separate cabinet-level department, aren't they?

Equal with Justice? Or subordinate?

Lemme google real quick...


8 posted on 08/21/2005 10:20:17 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: Squantos

A lot of stuff rolled up under them, the Secret Service, TSA, the Coast Guard, Customs and Border Protection, Citizenship and Immigration Services, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and FEMA.

Link to org chart: http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/DHSOrgChart.htm


9 posted on 08/21/2005 10:24:48 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: Squantos

"The Cabinet includes the Vice President and the heads of 15 executive departments-the Secretaries of Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Labor, State, Transportation, Treasury, and Veterans Affairs, and the Attorney General. Under President George W. Bush, Cabinet-level rank also has been accorded to the Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency; Director, Office of Management and Budget; the Director, National Drug Control Policy; and the U.S. Trade Representative. "

Link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/cabinet.html


10 posted on 08/21/2005 10:26:15 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: HiJinx

Thanks gotta get up to speed on the transition that 9-11 brought upon us......


11 posted on 08/21/2005 10:30:59 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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Some good things have happened, but there's still a lot of ignorance at the top...directors and secretaries haven't a clue what the other departments have done or can do.

One DHS deputy made a hare-brained comment vis-a-vis the Minutemen about DHS not letting civilians take part in the war on terror...which is exactly what the Coast Guard Auxiliary is and does.

It's going to take time that we may not have for them to get their acts together.

Okay, gonna call it a night...my best to you and yours.


12 posted on 08/21/2005 10:34:37 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: HiJinx

Next thing we'll hear is that the "abused prisoners" will be granted their own piece of American land... (sound familiar?)


13 posted on 08/21/2005 11:00:10 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Coleus
The thing that caught my eye, was that the Sheriff figgured out that he had the authority to throw the feds out, they obviously knew it, there is no comment about any argument from the feds.

Sadly most Sheriffs either don't know they have the authority to kick the feds out of their county, or are afraid of losing their federal grant(bribe) money.

14 posted on 08/22/2005 12:38:34 AM PDT by c-b 1
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It is interesting how illegal aliens are sowing the seeds of another civil war by their massive invasion. We are turning on one another over this issue. I think it will soon be beyond anybody's power to stop street fighting with or about illegal immigrants.

We are reaping a very bitter harvest from this massive lawlessness and threat to our culture and sovereignty.

Lawlessness begets lawlessness.

15 posted on 08/22/2005 3:08:43 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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That Texas judge ought to be removed from the bench...and then be made to ride one, tarred and feathered, out of town!


16 posted on 08/22/2005 6:25:24 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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..."What is unfortunate to hear is that there is now an impediment to a much-needed investigation to get the truth about what conditions are really like in the jail," said Bryan Lonegan, a Legal Aid attorney who offers free legal advice to detainees. "It's a problem with the way this whole audit has been managed." ...

And here's the guy to help make it happen, already in place, working for "free".


17 posted on 08/22/2005 7:19:26 AM PDT by planekT (No fence, no vote.)
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To: Coleus

Bttt!


18 posted on 08/22/2005 9:09:28 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: HiJinx
tarred and feathered

I'm a definite tar and feather advocate!

19 posted on 08/22/2005 10:18:19 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: planekT
(No fence, no vote.)

GOOD tagline!

20 posted on 08/22/2005 10:20:32 AM PDT by janetgreen
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